I think a hybrid approach makes most sense. We can have a web resource that lists standards and links to guidance documents and a wikipedia page. And we can also give some best practice information on our site for each standard. I suspect that will make our lives much easier. We still need to figure out where the website will live and what it will look like. But the "what will it look like" can be figured out later. Since we're not starting from scratch with each standard's listing - we aren't recording as much information about each standard - we could probably reconfigure the Google Docs spreadsheet to work for us without having to figure out a more advanced data entry/retrieval utility. 

In other words, the work could probably move forward considerably faster and more easily. 

Jimi

-----Original Message-----
From: The NDSA Standards working group list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Goethals, Andrea
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:19 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [NDSA-STANDARDS] Wikipedia for Standards Survey?

I also like the idea of using Wikipedia for descriptions of Dig.
Pres.-related standards. I still think there's value though in including best practices and guidance documents, and also early and in-process standards efforts, which don't seem amenable to their own Wikipedia pages (but I'd like to hear others' thoughts on this). Maybe we could do some hybrid solution where we have a website as Jimi suggested that can link to descriptions in Wikipedia where they exist, or contain info about the ones that aren't "Wikipedia-worthy" (which is a funny notion).
This website could also have space for institutional usage/trend information that we could gather from the related survey we discussed on the last call. 

Andrea

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The NDSA Standards working group list [mailto:NDSA- 
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stephen Paul
Davis
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:44 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [NDSA-STANDARDS] Wikipedia for Standards Survey?
> 
> Folks:  Let me add support for Wikipedia as a platform for this 
> effort.  Wikipedia is actually where I often start out when looking
for
> technical standards and file format definitions.  Here are some 
> articles I have actually consulted recently:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jpeg_2000
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV#Related_video_formats
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bext
> 
> Apart from helping to create / maintain Wikipedia articles on
different
> standards and practices, we might be able to develop a new page called 
> Digital Preservation Standards and Practices, drawing some of the 
> content from the existing Digital Preservation page:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_preservation
> 
> which itself needs a lot of work.  The list of standards on our new 
> page could be more lightly 'cataloged' than perhaps was done in the
planning
> so
> far.
> 
> It would be great to work in an environment where experts in other 
> fields could contribute to the knowledge base, although I can say as a 
> sometime Wikipedia contributor, that that can sometimes be a little 
> unsettling
> too.   Not sure if there would be a way to scope such a page or set of
> contributions so that they can reflect libraries' needs and
approaches.
> 
> 
> Stephen Paul Davis ~ Director, Libraries Digital Program 207A Butler, 
> Columbia University Libraries, New York, NY
> email: [log in to unmask] ~ ph(212)854-8584  fax(212)854-0089
> 
> 
> 
> At 11:53 AM 8/4/2011, you wrote:
> >Jimi: I think that this is a more realistic solution than the one we
> have
> >been exploring. If no participating institution is able to take
> ownership
> >of the more complex one we have been discussing, we should likely
> revert
> >to something more simple.
> >
> >I think it's probably important to remember that the goal of this
> working
> >group isn't necessarily to catalog all the standards that are out
> there,
> >but "to facilitate a community-wide understanding" of them. I
> understand
> >that a catalog or some sort of annotated list is the first step, but
I
> >believe that is only part of the issue at hand.
> >
> >Shane Beers
> >Digital Preservation Librarian at the University of Michigan 
> >[log in to unmask]
> >(734) 615-2686
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: The NDSA Standards working group list 
> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Jones, Jimi
> >Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:59 AM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: [NDSA-STANDARDS] Wikipedia for Standards Survey?
> >
> >Here's a radical idea re: our standards survey. How about we just
> update
> >existing Wikipedia pages and create new ones for standards that
aren't
> yet
> >in existence? We can update the existing pages to conform to what we
> were
> >planning to put into our survey (in terms of fields) and make new
> ones.
> >Then we have some kind of website that collocates links to the
> Wikipedia
> >pages by type (metadata standards, AV file format standards, still
> image
> >format standards, etc). That way we leverage what content is already
> in
> >the pages and we don't have to figure out some data entry/retrieval
> tool.
> >
> >This isn't a fully-formed thought but I wanted to throw it out there
> to
> >see what y'all think.
> >
> >Jimi
> >
> >##
> 
> ############################
> 
> To unsubscribe from the NDSA-STANDARDS list:
> write to: mailto:NDSA-STANDARDS-SIGNOFF- 
> [log in to unmask]
> or click the following link:
>
http://list.digitalpreservation.gov/SCRIPTS/WA-DIGITAL.EXE?SUBED1=NDSA-
> STANDARDS&A=1

############################

To unsubscribe from the NDSA-STANDARDS list:
write to: mailto:[log in to unmask]
or click the following link:
http://list.digitalpreservation.gov/SCRIPTS/WA-DIGITAL.EXE?SUBED1=NDSA-STANDARDS&A=1

############################

To unsubscribe from the NDSA-STANDARDS list:
write to: mailto:[log in to unmask]
or click the following link:
http://list.digitalpreservation.gov/SCRIPTS/WA-DIGITAL.EXE?SUBED1=NDSA-STANDARDS&A=1