Hi folks, I thought today's call was super. Thanks for putting it on. 


To add a little to Karen's observations (as a very strong supporter of
open source versus vendor supplied)...


The risks of an open source solution versus one from a vendor are
different (they are not the same). 


Top expand on this (I apologize if I am on a soap box here)...One thing
that we get from open source is the source code itself (or access to it
and to people who can understand it). Compare that to a vendor solution
- in that case we get the object code (the executable). If the vendor
goes away we cannot look at the code and find out why something broke,
how to access the data stored by that executable code. It's a huge risk
for preservation/long-term access needs.


I was an archive product manager while at Sun Microsystems. One of my
products was the Storage Archive Manager (SAM-FS). Customers use it for
long-term preservation (policy based data migration, checksums, etc). A
problem for customers was/is that Sun (and now Oracle) only distributes
the binary/executable and not the source (there's more beneath this
statement - a separate discussion, since SAM is available open source -
"kinda").


Customers with long-term access/preservation needs often ask for the
source to be put in Escrow for this very reason - should Oracle / Sun go
away, they absolutely need access to the source. 


Therein lies the biggest difference (pertaining to preservation - which
is what NDSA is about) between open source versus vendor-supplied
"proprietary" applications.


Open source, when done with a service provider behind it (such as
Archivematica, Islandora, redhat, etc), has the strength of the crowd
(crowd-sourcing!). I love it. And if the service provider goes away,
there are hundreds of skilled people in the crowd who can quickly start
a new service company, or provide support.


Thanks again, 


Gail
 
Gail Truman
Truman Technologies, LLC
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  -------- Original Message --------
 Subject: Re: [NDSA-INFRASTRUCTURE] Slides from Archivematica
 From: Karen Cariani <[log in to unmask]>
 Date: Tue, November 20, 2012 12:42 pm
 To: [log in to unmask]
 
 Yes- thank you everyone, great call! Here are some of my thoughts from
 the call.....any comments?
 
 Overall the use of open source solutions is to be able to rely on a
 community for support and improvements while your own needs can also be
 addressed. The evolution of service providers around open source
 solutions is another way to get support for use of the technologies
 without having to do it yourself. And they also contribute back to the
 community.
 
 The risks for an open solution vs vendor solution are the same. One
 allows for building a community rather than paying a fee. If tools are
 agnostic then even if one part of the community fails (breaks up) you
 still have the strength of the other tools in the mix.
 
 The service providers need to balance the needs of the client and the
 larger community.
 
 
 And don't forget we have Islandora net week.
 
 Karen
 
 On 11/20/12 3:01 PM, "Owens, Trevor" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
 
 >Thanks to everyone who participated.
 >
 >Here is a link to the slides from the call:
 >https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-mg0fE1wPrLYXppWjN1QnRwRVE/edit?pli=1
 >
 >Aside from that, please consider posting questions and comments
related
 >to the talk on the blog post where we can continue the discussion.
 >
 >http://blogs.loc.gov/digitalpreservation/2012/10/archivematica-and-the-ope
 >n-source-mindset-for-digital-preservation-systems/
 >
 >Lastly, if there are points you found particularly interesting or
thought
 >provoking but don't want to add to the comment thread please feel free
to
 >share them here on the list.
 >
 >Best, 
 >Trevor
 >
 >-----Original Message-----
 >From: The NDSA infrastructure working group list
 >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
 >Owens, Trevor
 >Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 1:43 PM
 >To: [log in to unmask]
 >Subject: [NDSA-INFRASTRUCTURE] Archivematica webinar starts in 20
minutes
 >
 >Dear NDSAers, 
 >
 >Quick reminder. The Archivematica WebEx is on today, Nov 20th at 2:00
PM
 >eastern. The presentation and discussion will focus on the software
and
 >the projects approach to open source software development for digital
 >preservation. 
 >
 >Call Details:
 >* Go to: 
 >https://issevents.webex.com/issevents/j.php?ED=174231872&UID=1113270772&PW
 >=NY2YxOWVjMDA0&RT=MiMxMQ%3D%3D
 >* The meeting password: 2Preserve
 >* You can also call in: 1-866-469-3239
 >* Access code:765 213 452
 >
 >Before the call, please read over this interview with Peter and
Courtney.
 >http://blogs.loc.gov/digitalpreservation/2012/10/archivematica-and-the-ope
 >n-source-mindset-for-digital-preservation-systems/
 >
 >Best, 
 > 
 >Trevor Owens 
 >Digital Archivist, NDIIPP
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