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Re: Publishing announcement of Special Issue on AI, Machine Learning, Data Science, and Libraries

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"Wang, Yongming" <[log in to unmask]>

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Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 27 Jul 2020 10:11:54 -0400

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Thank you Mark, for this wonderful news!


Yongming

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 9:57 AM Mark Jordan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi Yongming,
>
>
> The PKP PN plugin for OJS 3.x became available last week. It's in the
> Plugin Gallery. Announcement blog post is forthcoming.
>
>
> Thanks for using OJS!
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Wang,
> Yongming <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 4:50 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Publishing announcement of Special Issue on AI,
> Machine Learning, Data Science, and Libraries
>
> Hi Deborah,
>
> You are right. We upgraded to OJS 3.x a few months ago, which is much
> better than 2.x in terms of its interface and usability, especially the
> direct openness of the PDF button/link. The only drawback to us is that the
> free LOCKSS Preservation Network available in 2.x is not yet available in
> 3.x. (https://pkp.sfu.ca/pkp-pn/). I don't know when that feature will
> be available.
>
> Thanks,
> Yongming
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 6:22 PM Fitchett, Deborah <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Kia ora Eric,
> >
> > It presumably depends on your browser's capabilities: when I click the
> PDF
> > links here, it opens up a page on which the PDF is embedded and I can
> read
> > it straight away after a single click. For me that's more convenient than
> > downloading it and having to open it in a PDF reader, then for the next
> > article close the PDF reader and switch back to the browser, and later
> > having to declutter my downloads folder. For people with browsers with
> > fewer bells and whistles (or for machine input like your program) there's
> > that extra click, but everything is trade-offs.
> >
> > I expect the OJS project would take feedback on better ways to architect
> > their software though. (Probably more reluctantly if it involved massive
> > database changes, but still...)
> >
> > Deborah
> >
> > From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Eric
> > Lease Morgan
> > Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2020 1:23 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Publishing announcement of Special Issue on AI,
> > Machine Learning, Data Science, and Libraries
> >
> > [...]
> > > https://journal.calaijol.org/index.php/ijol<
> > https://journal.calaijol.org/index.php/ijol>
> > [...]
> >
> > Yongming, thank you for bringing this to our attention. AI in libraries
> is
> > a hot topic, for sure. I sincerely look forward to looking them over.
> >
> > To anybody or everybody, let's suppose I wanted to read the whole issue
> of
> > the journal described above. How many clicks does it require to get the
> > content? In this case, the answer is 2 times the number of articles, or 3
> > times the number of articles if I go through the DOI. The answer is at
> > least 18, if not 27. Furthermore, answer me this. What are the URLs
> > pointing to the PDF versions of the articles described above?
> >
> > "C'mon, Eric, don't be a jerk. Eighteen clicks is not so bad, especially
> > when you get the content for free." And my reply is, "It is not really
> the
> > number of clicks. Instead it is about conflation." The URLs to these
> things
> > -- as well as in many many many things across the 'Net -- are conflated.
> > The 'Net overflows with "not here but there" messages; the 'Net overflows
> > with "dummies" as they used to be called in libraries. You know, those
> > wooden blocks put on library shelves that say, "This book has been moved
> to
> > the Reserve Book Room until further notice." The dummies were
> frustrating.
> >
> > I'm sorry, but the utter truth is links break. The problem only gets
> > compounded when identifiers need to be resolved or splash ("landing")
> pages
> > get put in the way.
> >
> > I assert few people will read all of the articles in any journal if they
> > have to click through 18 different times in order to read/download the
> > documents. I assert even fewer people will read the whole of a conference
> > proceedings. Remember when conference proceedings where distributed in a
> > single volume, and you could easily peruse through the whole thing? We
> can
> > still have such a thing, if the links were managed differently.
> >
> > In short, I wish sites wouldn't tease me all along the way, and don't
> make
> > me hunt for the download link from the landing page. Give me the link to
> > the thing, not a surrogate. "Save the time of the reader."
> >
> > P.S. I "read" the issue, and I put the results here:
> >
> > https://carrels.distantreader.org/library/ai-in-libraries/<
> > https://carrels.distantreader.org/library/ai-in-libraries>
> >
> > --
> > Eric Morgan
> > University of Notre Dame
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > "The contents of this e-mail (including any attachments) may be
> > confidential and/or subject to copyright. Any unauthorised use,
> > distribution, or copying of the contents is expressly prohibited. If you
> > have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by return
> > e-mail or telephone and then delete this e-mail together with all
> > attachments from your system."
> >
>
>
> --
> Yongming Wang
> Systems Librarian
> R. Barbara Gitenstein Library
> The College of New Jersey
> Email: [log in to unmask]
>


--
Yongming Wang
Systems Librarian
R. Barbara Gitenstein Library
The College of New Jersey
Email: [log in to unmask]

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