Steve Toub wrote ... >>> ... we've done recent work with Struts and using the struts-logic and struts-bean JSP tag libraries ... What are y'all doing out there? What are your thoughts on the best UI layer that gives non-programmers freedom to edit markup and hides the bulk of the UI logic? >>> We're doing what you said you were doing in your recent work; namely, using Struts tag libraries in JSP pages. In addition to struts-logic and struts-bean, we've also found struts-template (now, struts-tiles) to be a help in isolating look-and-feel code from page content code. And, struts-html is a great help if you have forms on your pages. --Jim ================================================= Jim Coble Head, Instructional Technology Applications and Facilities Center for Instructional Technology Email: [log in to unmask] Voice: 919-660-5974 Fax: 919-660-5923 Box 90198, Duke University Durham, NC 27708-0198 =================================================