Thanks Jeff for summarizing all the great ideas so well. It's pretty overwhelming and inspiring to see this groundswell of interest in working together as a community. I blame jaf. If you don't feel like reading this whole email the rest can basically be summarized as saying code4lib.org is available for this journal experiment. We can put additional drupal modules, other software on there too if it would help. -- continue at your own risk -- At code4libcon Casey Bisson indicated that he would like to export the content in libdev.plymouth.edu into code4lib.org. In a lot of ways I think that libdev and /usr/lib/info could serve as good models for what kind of content could be present in a code4lib journal...well in addition to all the great stuff that Art and Roy already floated. So far things have been happening on the code4lib.org site in an adhoc way. Different people like Roy, Dan, Art, Jeremy have just decided to suggest certain things or to do them. It would be neat if it could continue to evolve this way. At the moment there are 4 people who have access to the machine and the drupal footprint. There are lots of administrators who can modify the content via the admin screens. If you'd like admin access please email me, or respond on the list here, or drop into IRC. I've been confused about how the code4lib.org site should be used post-conference, and this 'new kind of journal' idea sounds like a great experiment. How about we start posting content (as Dan has already) and see what happens? As far as I'm concerned code4lib.org is fair game for whatever we want to try out. The machine that code4lib.org is running on is an experiment in itself since it was started by Kevin Clarke and Clay Redding as a communal machine for library technologists to share. If you are interested in participating I think there is room. It's been nice to see this thread in public...since oftentimes discussion happens in real time in IRC (which isn't publicly logged-- yet). I think Colleen is right to point out the dangers of having a 'core group'. But I would argue that the core group is really a mirage, and that up until now it has simply been people who've decided to participate (for better or for worse) in #code4lib. //Ed