I don't really see any need to make this any more complicated. OSU doesn't have to host it forever, just for now ... because they are offering up resources. Do we really have to wring our hands any longer? This is partly my fault for making it so public I guess. btw, dchud did grab a tarball of code4lib.org to hopefully get it back going asap ... it turns out dan had planned on mentioning code4lib at scifoocamp [1] so there was some urgency in getting something back running quickly. dchud++ My apologies for shirking my responsibilities ... you all deserve better. //Ed [1] http://www.nature.com/nature/meetings/scifoo/index.html