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Years ago I was in a discussion with a physics professor about aspects of some new programming language, he then said to me, "I use a high level language", naturally I tried to guess what it was, I went through a pretty extensive list, increasingly esoteric. "No, no," he said at last, "it's none of those, it's called 'graduate student'". I imagine he used a text editor called 'secretary'. -chick > A true hacker has no need for these crude tools. He waits for cosmic > radiation to pummel the magnetic patterns on his drive into a pleasing > and functional sequence of bits. > > --Sebastian > > Ross Singer wrote: >> All I use is a pen and legal size paper. Longhand is the real >> hacker's IDE. >> >> Then I feed my code in via a scanner and OCR. >> >> Python's a little tricker: needs a ruler or graph paper at the very >> least. >> >> All my work is open source, give me a call and I'll read it to you. >> Sorry, the fax machine isn't working right. >> >> -Ross. >> >> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Ryan Ordway <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> I prefer to edit the filesystem directly with a hex editor. No >>> mounting required! I've given up on using magents directly on the hard >>> drive, I tend to do more damage that way... >>> >>> On Mar 31, 2008, at 10:54 AM, David Fiander wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Vi is just as programmable as emacs. It's possible to write a vi macro >>>> that runs a turing machine. >>>> >>>> - David >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Cloutman, David >>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I use nano, which is the same thing as pico, more or less. I wrote my >>>>> first web pages using pico in a unix shell. I always thought it was a >>>>> great editor. I use nano almost daily, even on my Windows machines. >>>>> >>>>> I just don't see the attaction to vi. I understand the need to know >>>>> it, >>>>> but the fundamentalist furvor that some people have for the program >>>>> baffles me. >>>>> >>>>> - David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> David Cloutman <[log in to unmask]> >>>>> Electronic Services Librarian >>>>> Marin County Free Library >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On >>>>> Behalf Of >>>>> K.G. Schneider >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:09 AM >>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] K&R (was: Gartner on OSS) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I now open up the vi vs. emacs discussion: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://xkcd.com/378/ >>>>>> >>>>>> (personally, I'm a BBEdit user, but fall back to vi as needed ... >>>>>> and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ex >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> for those rare times when you have to tip into a Solaris box to fix >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> vfstab and your TERM is completely hosed) >>>>>> >>>>>> -Joe >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Back when that was my choice, I used emacs exactly once, during >>>>> which I >>>>> removed every instance of the letter "m" from a lengthy document. >>>>> (When >>>>> I have to edit a file in my shell account, which is rare, I use >>>>> pico... >>>>> yes, I know that makes me a sissy *and I don't care.*) >>>>> >>>>> K.G. Schneider >>>>> >>>>> Email Disclaimer: >>>>> http://www.co.marin.ca.us/nav/misc/EmailDisclaimer.cfm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Ryan Ordway E-mail: [log in to unmask] >>> Unix Systems Administrator >>> [log in to unmask] >>> OSU Libraries, Corvallis, OR 97331 Office: Valley Library #4657 >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > Sebastian Hammer, Index Data > [log in to unmask] www.indexdata.com > Ph: (603) 209-6853 Fax: (866) 383-4485 > > >