Without piling on Roy—things that seem easy aren't always so when you
consider the whole context (redundancy, maintenance, security,
etc.)—how do OCLC members usually get their technical requests met?
OCLC is, at root, a member organization. How does that play out when
it comes to members' technical wants?
Tim
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Ziso, Ya'aqov <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Roy,
>
> OCLC gets the weekly NAF updates, can simply run a grep command to extract the 010 fields to a new file, and put the new file in a place available for OCLC members' retrieval. Explaining why OCLC needs to take 2 years for considering their competing priorities with those of their partners doesn't help much as we move in a Web 2.0 speed. Unless this proposal can be fulfilled, respectfully, let's agree to disagree on this, and move on.
>
> Ya'aqov
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries on behalf of Roy Tennant
> Sent: Mon 10/13/2008 10:13 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] NAF notification service from OCLC
>
> Ya'aqov,
> The answer is not "no", it is exactly as Karen described. Since you
> interpret this as "no", I wonder if you have a less than complete grasp on
> what it takes to develop an ongoing production service upon which you can
> rely. Also, I hope you can appreciate that we have many competing priorities
> that we cannot simply ignore in order to respond to a new service idea. As
> most institutions do, we have a procedure for weighing development
> priorities and making strategic decisions that we cannot simply throw aside
> upon a whim. Lastly, part of what we would be required to do is to work with
> the Library of Congress as the producer of the data before we could create
> such a service. Thank you for allowing me to further explain why we cannot
> simply implement your proposal.
> Roy
>
>
> On 10/12/08 10/12/08 . 11:39 AM, "Ya'aqov Ziso" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>>> suggestion to our list of potential new services and enhancements for
>> consideration in our next round of planning for development in fiscal year
>> 2010.
>>
>> Roy, Karen,
>> The deferment suggested by your reply leaves out CODE4LIB's core offer,
>> to engage timely technologies for the libraries available currently, in the
>> pace of Web 2.0. It seems OCLC has yet to find way to cope with the pace of
>> such offers. If there were two ways of saying No to our NAF update
>> notification request from OCLC, I guess you opted for the second.
>> Legitimately and respectfully I take this as a No.
>> Regards,
>> Ya'aqov Ziso,
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/11/08 5:48 PM, "Roy Tennant" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Forwarded by permission.
>>> Roy
>>>
>>> On 10/10/08 10/10/08 . 2:57 PM, "Calhoun,Karen" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Ya'aqov Ziso,
>>>>
>>>> Your email request/proposal of 4 October 2008 to Roy Tennant ("My proposal
>>>> to
>>>> you is that OCLC will start offering a NEW service to its
>>>> members/subscribers.
>>>> That service will be a simple listing of the 010 fields for Name authority
>>>> records that have been CHANGED that week in the OCLC NAF, and 010 for the
>>>> new
>>>> Name authority records for that have been ADDED to NAF.") has been referred
>>>> by
>>>> OCLC Research to the OCLC Metadata Services product group for consideration.
>>>>
>>>> We are pleased to receive your suggestion for a new service. We will add
>>>> this
>>>> suggestion to our list of potential new services and enhancements for
>>>> consideration in our next round of planning for development in fiscal year
>>>> 2010.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for sharing your ideas with us.
>>>>
>>>> Karen
>>>>
>>>> Karen Calhoun
>>>> Vice President, WorldCat and Metadata Services
>>>> 6565 Kilgour Place
>>>> Dublin OH 43017
>>>> 800-848-5878 x6441
>>>> 614-764-6441
>>>> FAX: 614-718-7457
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/4/08 10/4/08 . 2:02 PM, "Ya'aqov Ziso" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The following message has been posted also in ACAT
>>>> ===============================
>>>> Roy,
>>>>
>>>> Kindest thanks for providing language in-between systems engineers such
>>>> as CODE4LIB and bibliographic control librarians such as ACAT
>>>> ( http://techessence.info/tech/ ). The premise of my appeal to you was that
>>>> you also represent OCLC Programs & Research when contributing to CODE4LIB
>>>> and ACAT.
>>>>
>>>> 1. CODE4LIB expressed interest in obtaining a copy of LCSH and NAF and their
>>>> weekly updates (see the first eMail in the thread you're pointing at
>>>> http://serials.infomotions.com/code4lib/archive/2008/200809/subject.html
>>>> from Andrew Nagy, then 2 follow ups from Andrew and myself).
>>>>
>>>> 2. At a later point in the thread, the focus was placed on the UPDATES for
>>>> NAF. OCLC are receiving weekly updates for NAF, updating and making these
>>>> files current for OCLC subscribers/members.
>>>>
>>>> 3. My proposal to you is that OCLC will start offering a NEW service to its
>>>> members/subscribers. That service will be a simple listing of the 010 fields
>>>> for Name authority records that have been CHANGED that week in the OCLC NAF,
>>>> and 010 for the new Name authority records for that have been ADDED to NAF.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Such service will assist system staff in planning their authority work
>>>> and sufficient also for CODE4LIB's current purposes.
>>>>
>>>> If you wish to explore this opportunity for collaboration some more, I will
>>>> be glad to follow up offline. Kindest thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ya'aqov Ziso, Rowan University
>>>>
>>>> =================================
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Roy Tennant <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>> Ya'aqov, I'm afraid I don't have any idea to what you are referring.
>>>>>> Although I had posted one message on an authorities thread in Code4Lib, it
>>>>>> wasn't this at all. Anyone who wants to see this thread can do so at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://serials.infomotions.com/code4lib/archive/2008/200809/subject.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Look for "LOC Authority Data". Thanks,
>>>>>> Roy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/1/08 10/1/08 ? 9:56 AM, "Ya'aqov Ziso" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The following request from OCLC/Roy Tennant (in another list) may be of
>>>>>>>> interest also here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can OCLC provide a service to its members with a list of 010 (only the
>>>>>> 010)
>>>>>>>> for the NAME authority records for the specific weekly update of each
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>> week
>>>>>>>> OCLC receive from NACO/LC?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a simple grep from the NAF weekly update, listing additions and
>>>>>>>> changes to NAF for that week. That seems to be no infringement of any
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>> copy
>>>>>>>> rights, just pointers to records that can be reviewed by system staff
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> planning their authority work. A most useful service from OCLC. Kindest
>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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