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On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Godmar Back <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> Not that I know of. >> >> You can say display:none, but that'll probably hide it from LibX etc too. > > No, why would it. I agree with Godmar -- everything should be using the DOM. The tag is still there. Of course, if the COinS processor is inserting its output into the span tag, you might have a problem... -Ross. > > BTW, I don't see why screen readers would stumble over this when the > child of the <span> is empty. Do they try to read empty text? And if > a COinS is processed, we fix up the title so tooltips show nicely. > > - Godmar > >> >> What is needed is a CSS @media for screen readers, like one exists for >> 'print'. So you could have a seperate stylesheet for screenreaders, like you >> can have a seperate stylesheet for print. That would be the right way to do >> it. >> >> But doesn't exist. >> >> Jonathan >> >> Thomas Dowling wrote: >>> >>> On 12/04/2008 02:02 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, I had recently noticed indepedently, been unhappy with the way a >>>> COinS "title" shows up in mouse-overs, and is reccommended to be used by >>>> screen readers. Oops. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> By any chance, do current screen readers honor something like '<span >>> class="Z3988" style="speak:none" title=...>'? >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Jonathan Rochkind >> Digital Services Software Engineer >> The Sheridan Libraries >> Johns Hopkins University >> 410.516.8886 rochkind (at) jhu.edu >> >