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True. Just the best I've found yet. If something better exists, I haven't found it. Jonathan Diane I. Hillmann wrote: > Jonathan: > > What strikes me about the code list you found is how difficult it is > to use, as compared to what we're starting to do for RDA. The > methodology that ONIX uses to build and maintain their lists really > pushes a lot of the onus over to the user to keep up with changes in > their vocabularies. Among other things, it presupposes a "system" > into which the XML or CSV can be loaded. > I have spoken briefly to some of their folks about using the Registry > (or something like it) to maintain their vocabularies (or, at least, > to assist others in using their vocabularies), but I'm not sure they > quite get the notion of re-use outside their community (publishers) > quite yet. The work that has been done with the RDA/ONIX effort is a > start, but obviously there's a way to go yet. > Diane > > Jonathan Rochkind wrote: >> Thanks, that's interesting too. >> >> One of the most useful lists I've found is actually in ONIX, Code >> List 7. >> >> http://www.editeur.org/codelists.html >> >> Although Code List 7 actually needs to be supplemented by Code List >> 78 if you want full detail. (Like whether a VHS tape is NTSC or PAL; >> or the fact that a printed book is in Braille (US or UK? Can specify >> either, hooray.)). >> The ONIX list is a pretty good and complete list of physical formats >> for published items, and appears to be free, and is available in XML >> as well. >> It does become an awfully LONG list. And is still not entirely >> intellectually consistent---the article Diane pointed to in D-Lib is >> the result of trying to harmonize this with library practices in an >> intellectually consistent way, but it becomes something so abstract >> that it's kind of hard to deal with, and also leaves many >> vocabularies unspecified. I think a more or less flat list with >> specified vocabulary, even if not entirely intellectually consistent, >> that corresponds to the universe of actually existing published >> items, is probably more useful. >> >> Jonathan >> >> Chris Beer wrote: >>> Hi Jonathan, >>> >>> As Esha said, PBCore might be worth looking at. It's probably one of >>> the more complete lists. If you want something more formal than the >>> PBCore list, the EBU also has a good vocabulary in an XML format >>> (http://www.ebu.ch/metadata/cs/ebu_StorageMediaTypeCodeCS.xml). The >>> nice thing about the EBU list is that some of their term definitions >>> might help identify more obscure materials. >>> >>> >>>> Have you looked at PBCore? It's a metadata standard developed by >>>> the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and is used for tv and >>>> other multi media cataloging. >>> >>> >>>>> Jonathan Rochkind wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Anyone know of any good existing controlled vocabulary for >>>>>> 'format' or 'carrier' for multimedia materials? I'm thinking of >>>>>> things like "CD", "DVD", "digital", etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> The closest I can get is from RDA at http://metadataregistry.org/ >>>>>> concept/list/vocabulary_id/46.html (thanks Karen and Diane), but >>>>>> it seems _really_ insufficient. As far as I can tell "audio >>>>>> disc" is used for both a CD and a vinyl disc, and there's >>>>>> nothing available there for "DVD" at all. Or for "digital". >>>>>> Although I'm not sure what I mean by "digital", I guess CD and >>>>>> DVD are both digital, but I was thinking of something to >>>>>> identify a digital file on a computer network free of particular >>>>>> carrier. I guess that wouldn't be in a carrier vocabulary at >>>>>> all, after all, that would be sort of a null carrier. Phew, this >>>>>> stuff does get complicated quick. Which I guess is why nobody's >>>>>> worked out a good one yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Too bad RDA's is so _far_ from good though. Any others anyone >>>>>> knows about? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jonathan >>>>>> >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >> > -- Jonathan Rochkind Digital Services Software Engineer The Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University 410.516.8886 rochkind (at) jhu.edu