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The TEI format does a decent job of representing bibliographic information. The TEI approach is to treat all instances of bibliographic reference as similarly as possible. So the title page of a work, the reference markers in the text and the references at the end of the work are all described in the same conceptual framework. http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/html/CO.html#COBI The TEI is modular, so you can declare whether you're commingling bibliographic tags with part-of-speech, manuscript description and other kinds of tags. cheers stuart Cloutman, David wrote: > I'm open to seeing new approaches to the ILS in general. A related > question I had the other day, speaking of MARC, is what would an > alternative bibliographic data format look like if it was designed with > the intent for opening access to the data our ILS systems to developers > in a more informal manner? I was thinking of an XML format that a > developer could work with without formal training, the basics of which > could be learned in an hour, and could reasonably represent the > essential fields of the 90% of records that are most likely to be viewed > by a public library patron. In my mind, such a format would allow > creators of community-based web sites to pull data from their local > library, and repurpose it without having to learn a lot of arcane > formats (e.g. MARC) or esoteric protocols (e.g. Z39.50). The sacrifice, > of course, would be loosing some of the richness MARC allows, but I > think in many common situations the really complex records are not what > patrons are interested in. You may want to consider prototyping this in > your application. I see such an effort to be vital in making our systems > relevant in future computing environments, and I am skeptical that a > simple, workable solution would come out the initial efforts of a > standardization committee. > > Just my 2 cents. > > - David > > --- > David Cloutman <[log in to unmask]> > Electronic Services Librarian > Marin County Free Library > > -----Original Message----- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Peter Schlumpf > Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 8:40 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [CODE4LIB] Something completely different > > > Greetings! > > I have been lurking on (or ignoring) this forum for years. And > libraries too. Some of you may know me. I am the Avanti guy. I am, > perhaps, the first person to try to produce an open source ILS back in > 1999, though there is a David Duncan out there who tried before I did. I > was there when all this stuff was coming together. > > Since then I have seen a lot of good things happen. There's Koha. > There's Evergreen. They are good things. I have also seen first hand > how libraries get screwed over and over by commercial vendors with their > crappy software. I believe free software is the answer to that. I have > neglected Avanti for years, but now I am ready to return to it. > > I want to get back to simple things. Imagine if there were no Marc > records. Minimal layers of abstraction. No politics. No vendors. No > SQL straightjacket. What would an ILS look like without those things? > Sometimes the biggest prison is between the ears. > > I am in a position to do this now, and that's what I have decided to do. > I am getting busy. > > Peter Schlumpf > > Email Disclaimer: http://www.co.marin.ca.us/nav/misc/EmailDisclaimer.cfm -- Stuart Yeates http://www.nzetc.org/ New Zealand Electronic Text Centre http://researcharchive.vuw.ac.nz/ Institutional Repository