Are there any blindingly obvious examples of instances where a) a standards group produced a standard published by a body which charged for access to it and b) a alternative standards groups produced a competing standard that was openly accessible and the work of group a) was rendered totally irrelevant because most non-commercial work ignored it in favour of b). My instinct is to quote the battle between OSI (ISO) and TCP/IP (IETF RFCs). Does that strike others as appropriate? Any examples closer to the library world? Walter Lewis