I also think it is a good idea to reserve a certain number/percentage of speaking slots to first-time presenters. I also want to bring up (again) the issue of presenters presenting more than once. We are looking at a conference with 400 attendees -- 400! How can we justify having anyone on the podium more than once? I mean, seriously? I think we need to realize that we have grown to the point that we need more management than we have in the past. Remember that we also still have open-ended slots for lightning talks and breakouts. It isn't like I'm calling for the kind of strictness that ALA imposes. Roy On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Edward M Corrado <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > I am not thrilled with the idea of anonymous proposals as I think that > goes against the openness non-organization that is code4lib. Also based on > the numbers posted earlier it seems inputs are more of an issue then the > voting. > > However, I love the idea of X number of presentations reserved for first > time presenters. I don't know what the value of X should be but Bess's idea > of 15% sounds good to me. > > I'd personally also like to see a limit to the number of talks someone can > give or propose, but I know this has been brought up before and, at least > in the past, there was not overwhelming support for this. > > Edward > > -- > Edward M. Corrado > > On Nov 27, 2012, at 18:41, Bess Sadler <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > I am not volunteering to write the voting mechanism for this, but what > if we had two rounds of voting? > > > > 1. First round, anonymous (people who follow these things avidly would > of course have read everyone's names on the wiki, but I think for most > people not having the names listed means you have removed the names from > consideration). We use the current system of assigning points. Once you've > cast that ballot, then you get ballot 2: > > > > 2. The same ballot with the names present. You now have the opportunity > to change your vote, if you want to. It might be because you didn't realize > that person who secretly bores you was one of the speakers. It might be > because what at first looked like just another talk about marc software > sounds more compelling if its from someone who's never spoken before. > > > > I wonder if we might also set aside a separate competition for first > time speakers? Say, 15% of the talks? Assuming that generally speaking, > offering ways for early-career folks or those new to public speaking to > participate is a good thing and would benefit diversity as a bonus. > > > > Bess > > > > On Nov 27, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Kelley McGrath <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > >> I'll second the idea of approaching people individually and explicitly > asking them to participate. It worked on me. I never would have written my > first article for the Code4Lib Journal or become a member of the editorial > committee if someone hadn't encouraged me individually (Thanks Jonathan!). > >> > >> It would also be good to find a way to somehow target the pool of > lurkers who maybe aren't already connected to someone and get them more > involved. > >> > >> As far as anonymous proposals go, we recently had a very good workshop > on implicit bias here. Someone brought up that found significant changes in > the gender proportions in symphony orchestras after candidates started > auditioning behind screens. There are also lots of studies about the > different responses to the same resume/application depending on whether a > stereotypically male/female or white/black name was used. Probably it's > impossible to make proposals completely anonymous, but it would be an > interesting experiment to leave off the names. > >> > >> Kelley > >> > >> PS Interestingly, I wouldn't instinctively self-identify as a member of > the Code4Lib community, although my first thought is that that has more to > do with not being a coder than with being a woman. > >> > >> > >> ************************** > >> Kelley McGrath > >> Metadata Management Librarian > >> University of Oregon Libraries > >> 1299 University of Oregon > >> Eugene, OR 97403 > >> > >> 541-346-8232 > >> [log in to unmask] >