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How about someone volunteer to do a lightning talk "pitch" of the mentorship idea, recommending folks "register" on the aforementioned wiki page (for both mentors and mentees), and then they can meet up at a follow-on breakout? -Mike On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > On Nov 27, 2012, at 9:33 PM, Cynthia Ng <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Getting traction for mentoring online is always difficult, but what > > about starting that mentorship at code4libcon? > > > +1 - being face-to-face might help ease the tension. > > Having a sort of "speed dating" setup might help make better fits between > mentors and mentees, as well. > > That is, a roomful of nerds deferring passively to one another might not > get us very far :) Something more structured about what people want to > learn and what mentors know and how they get along together would probably > make for a more productive outcome. > > -Ross. > > > Maybe almost like a buddy system, so that the first meeting between a > > mentor and mentee is at a code4libcon (national, regional, or > > otherwise) if possible. > > > > This might simply be a good idea for first timers who are not going > > with colleagues too. > > > > Just throwing out some ideas here... > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Nick Ruest <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Matt McCollow proposed something like this a while back. We have a page > up > >> and everything! But, it never got much traction. > >> > >> http:[log in to unmask] > >> http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Mentorship > >> > >> -nruest > >> > >> On 12-11-27 07:30 PM, Bess Sadler wrote: > >>> > >>> +1 to this idea. I have benefited tremendously over the years from kind > >>> people taking me under their wings. Many of us try to do this > one-on-one, > >>> but some kind of introduction service would be a huge benefit for the > >>> community, I would think. > >>> > >>> Mentorship is a great example of a robust solution - a solution that > >>> addresses more than one problem at once. I suspect that this would not > only > >>> improve our diversity as a community, it might also solve some tech > >>> leadership / succession planning problems and maybe expose some > training > >>> needs. > >>> > >>> Bess > >>> > >>> On Nov 27, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Nathan Tallman <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> This is a slightly different topic, but relates to Kelley's post: Does > >>>> code4lib have a mentor program where more inexperienced geeks can > pair up > >>>> with someone to guide their development? I don't have anyone like > that in > >>>> my network, but would really like to. I don't mean to discount the > >>>> existing > >>>> resources on code4lib or this list, which both have been very useful. > I'm > >>>> sure I could just start by attending some of the conferences, but for > >>>> more > >>>> inexperienced people they can be a bit intimidating, albeit inspiring. > >>>> > >>>> It would also be a way to directly engage minorities. > >>>> > >>>> Just a thought. > >>>> > >>>> Nathan > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Kelley McGrath <[log in to unmask]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I'll second the idea of approaching people individually and > explicitly > >>>>> asking them to participate. It worked on me. I never would have > written > >>>>> my > >>>>> first article for the Code4Lib Journal or become a member of the > >>>>> editorial > >>>>> committee if someone hadn't encouraged me individually (Thanks > >>>>> Jonathan!). > >>>>> > >>>>> It would also be good to find a way to somehow target the pool of > >>>>> lurkers > >>>>> who maybe aren't already connected to someone and get them more > >>>>> involved. > >>>>> > >>>>> As far as anonymous proposals go, we recently had a very good > workshop > >>>>> on > >>>>> implicit bias here. Someone brought up that found significant > changes in > >>>>> the gender proportions in symphony orchestras after candidates > started > >>>>> auditioning behind screens. There are also lots of studies about the > >>>>> different responses to the same resume/application depending on > whether > >>>>> a > >>>>> stereotypically male/female or white/black name was used. Probably > it's > >>>>> impossible to make proposals completely anonymous, but it would be an > >>>>> interesting experiment to leave off the names. > >>>>> > >>>>> Kelley > >>>>> > >>>>> PS Interestingly, I wouldn't instinctively self-identify as a member > of > >>>>> the Code4Lib community, although my first thought is that that has > more > >>>>> to > >>>>> do with not being a coder than with being a woman. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ************************** > >>>>> Kelley McGrath > >>>>> Metadata Management Librarian > >>>>> University of Oregon Libraries > >>>>> 1299 University of Oregon > >>>>> Eugene, OR 97403 > >>>>> > >>>>> 541-346-8232 > >>>>> [log in to unmask] > >>>>> > >> > >> -- > >> -nruest >