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This just sounds like you don't care about counting the gender variant members of the community. On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Rosalyn Metz <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I'm going to leave it as is for now, let's think of this as a first draft. > As I think I said to the list (not sure because lots of people have > contacted me directly) I'd hate to change it now because that'd just make > the first half of the answers useless/inconsistent/different than the rest. > > Next time around we can add in an other option. Sound good? > On Nov 27, 2012 4:22 PM, "Gabriel Farrell" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Great first step, Rosalyn. Could we include an "other" for those in the > > community that may not be covered by the gender binary? > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > > > > I'm pretty sure I said "if you're unsure" which means maybe you've > never > > > thought about it or not really clear as to what 'part of the community' > > > means. > > > > > > I mean, I'm not trying to annex the unsuspecting or anything. > > > > > > -Ross. > > > > > > On Nov 27, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Wilhelmina Randtke <[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Um, no. Anyone who takes the survey has to have gotten the incoming > > link > > > > from somewhere. This listserv is the most likely source. So, by > your > > > > definition almost anyone with the URL for the survey is a community > > > > member. > > > > > > > > Self-defining as part of the community is about how people see their > > > role. > > > > Otherwise the survey could just list all those things you said and > ask > > if > > > > the person did them. > > > > > > > > -Wilhelmina Randtke > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> To second Rosy's point, if you are unsure if you are 'part of the > > > >> community' and you can answer yes to any of the following questions, > > you > > > >> absolutely can say 'yes' in the survey: > > > >> > > > >> You are on the CODE4LIB mailing list > > > >> You have attended a Code4Lib conference > > > >> You have submitted to a CfP to a Code4Lib conference > > > >> You tried to attend a Code4Lib conference but didn't register in > time > > > >> You have a registered account on code4lib.org > > > >> You have a registered account on wiki.code4lib.org > > > >> You have submitted to or read the Code4lib journal > > > >> You follow planet.code4lib.org > > > >> You have been in the #code4lib IRC channel > > > >> > > > >> What I'm saying is that Code4Lib's "community" takes a lot of forms, > > > don't > > > >> feel you need to be a regular in the IRC channel or something. > > > >> > > > >> -Ross. > > > >> > > > >> On Nov 27, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Rosalyn Metz <[log in to unmask]> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> To our dear dear lurking friends, > > > >>> > > > >>> We would also like you to take the survey. I put the "Do you > > consider > > > >>> yourself a part of the Code4Lib community." question in the survey > > > >> because > > > >>> I wanted to make sure that people that were part of Code4Lib were > > > >>> separated from the random people that might take the survey -- like > > oh > > > >> say > > > >>> my mom (I'm not kidding, she would take the survey if she saw it). > > > >>> > > > >>> But then I was reminded that I once thought I wasn't part of the > > > >> community. > > > >>> I read the listserv all the time and then I decided to start a > blog. > > > And > > > >>> then I went to a conference where I gave a lightning talk. And now > > > >> Michael > > > >>> Klein is yelling at me to come back to the conference and IRC chat > > > room. > > > >>> > > > >>> So now my hope for that question is that folks like you -- who > think > > > they > > > >>> are just a lurker -- will take the survey and respond no to the > first > > > >>> question. Then maybe we can figure out a way to turn some of those > > nos > > > >> to > > > >>> yeses. > > > >>> > > > >>> :) > > > >>> A former lurker > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Rosalyn Metz < > [log in to unmask] > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Ok Folks, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I'm starting off small. Let's do a quick survey of the community > > and > > > >> see > > > >>>> what the gender breakdown is. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Survey Link: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/68G5TBG > > > >>>> > > > >>>> It should take 1 minute to fill out. It closes at the end of the > > day > > > >>>> Friday (midnight). I'll share the results here on Monday when > we're > > > all > > > >>>> back to work and can have a lively discussion about what they > mean. > > > >> Expect > > > >>>> a chart (I like charts in addition to surveys). > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Rosalyn > > > >>>> > > > >>>> P.S. can someone share on the twitters? > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > >