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Merged #4. --ay On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Nick Ruest <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Starting the work. > > Remove poledance and euph: https://github.com/code4lib/** > supybot-plugins/pull/4<https://github.com/code4lib/supybot-plugins/pull/4> > > -nruest > > > On 13-01-18 01:17 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: > >> I think there has been general consensus that there are some offensive >> plugins and that the bot should be held to the same level we expect >> from a person, but noone (yet) has stepped up to volunteer to go >> through all that's available and make an effort at cleaning things up. >> As we all know, things don't get done in Code4Lib without someone >> doing the work. Anyone want to step up and volunteer to go through >> what's there and take a stab at it? Even a first pass might advance >> us to the next level of discussion... or a list of plugins in question >> could be farmed out to individuals interested in making the changes? >> >> Kevin (taking a step backwards) >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Tim Donohue <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> FWIW, there are a few zoia commands I've noticed that could come across >>> as >>> sexist (especially if you see Zoia as being a "female" bot). >>> >>> I don't think they are used that frequently, but I have seen: >>> >>> @poledance (have zoia display a poledancer) >>> @euph (have zoia respond in a euphemism) >>> >>> This isn't meant to spoil any of the fun of having zoia around. For the >>> most >>> part, I don't take offense to zoia. But, I do find zoia annoying / noisy >>> (which is why I'm rarely in code4lib IRC). Though there are some useful / >>> helpful zoia commands in there. >>> >>> I like Jon Gorman's suggestion of having a friendly, helpful bot and a >>> wise-cracking one. That way, those of us annoyed by the ongoing >>> wise-cracking can ignore it, while still having access to the helpful >>> stuff. >>> (And it may be easier to turn off the wise-cracking parts during the >>> conference if desired.) >>> >>> - Tim >>> >>> >>> On 1/18/2013 10:26 AM, Karen Coyle wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Actually, I find the "playing" with Zoia itself offensive. As per my >>>> response to my own message. >>>> >>>> It objectifies women. Treats them as play-things. Makes me very >>>> uncomfortable. If we want to have an information bot, perhaps like the >>>> one used by W3C which takes minutes for meetings (Zakim, I believe it >>>> is), that seems reasonable. But to have a "play-thing" that is gendered >>>> is a really, really bad idea. In fact, to have a "play-thing" of any >>>> kind on the channel might not be a good idea. I know that some folks >>>> find it fun, but it is akin to the locker-room shenanigans (at least as >>>> I experience it), and it's a HUGE in-joke that makes it obvious to >>>> anyone new that they aren't "in". >>>> >>>> kc >>>> >>>