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Hi, Python, Python, Python. Did I say Python? -Pythonist- Cornel Darden Jr. MSLIS Librarian Kennedy-King College City Colleges of Chicago Work 773-602-5449 Cell 708-705-2945 > On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Joshua Welker <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > I think I have the information I need at this point, so this would be a good > time to let this thread die before it turns into what I tried to avoid in > the first place. > > Josh Welker > Information Technology Librarian > James C. Kirkpatrick Library > University of Central Missouri > Warrensburg, MO 64093 > JCKL 2260 > 660.543.8022 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Matthew Sherman > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:25 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby > > Ok folks, we have veered into nonconstructive territory. How about we come > back to the original question and help this person figure out what they need > to about Ruby and Python so they can do well with what they want to work on. > >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Ethan Gruber <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> All languages other than assembly are boutique and must be eliminated >> like the cancer that they are. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> What would you consider a "boutique" language? What isn't? >>> >>> -Ross. >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Rich Wenger <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>> The proliferation of boutique "languages" is a cancer on our community. >>>> Each one is a YAP (Yet Another Priesthood), and little else. The >>>> world does not need five slightly varying syntaxes for a substring >>>> function. >>> If I >>>> had switched languages every time the web community "recommended" >>>> it, I would have rewritten a mountain of apps at least twice in the >>>> past five years. What's next, a separate language to put periods >>>> at the end of sentences? Just my $.02. That is all. >>>> >>>> Rich Wenger >>>> E-Resource Systems Manager, MIT Libraries [log in to unmask] >>>> 617-253-0035 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >>>> Joshua Welker >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:56 AM >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby >>>> >>>> I am already a big user of PHP for web apps, but PHP does not make a >>>> fantastic scripting language in my experience. >>>> >>>> Josh Welker >>>> Information Technology Librarian >>>> James C. Kirkpatrick Library >>>> University of Central Missouri >>>> Warrensburg, MO 64093 >>>> JCKL 2260 >>>> 660.543.8022 >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >>>> Riley Childs >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:18 AM >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby >>>> >>>> No mention of PHP? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Jul 30, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Kurt Nordstrom <[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Whoohoo, late to the party! >>>>> >>>>> I like Python because I learned it first, and I haven't had a need to >>>>> explore Ruby yet. >>>>> >>>>> I did briefly foray into learning Ruby in order to try to learn >>>>> Rails, >>>>> and I actually found that my background in Python sort of gave me >>>>> brain-jam for learning Ruby, because the languages were so close >>>>> together, but just different in some ways. So my mind would be 'oh, >>>>> so >>>>> it's just <insert Python idiom here> but then, it's not. If I tackle >>>>> Ruby again, I will definitely try to 'empty my cup' first. >>>>> >>>>> -K >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Marc Chantreux <[log in to unmask]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry comming late with it but: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:43:33AM -0500, Joshua Welker wrote: >>>>>>> Not intending to start a language flame war/holy war here, but in >>>>>>> the library coding community, is there a particular reason to use >>>>>>> Ruby over Python or vice-versa? >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it the only choices you have? Because I'd personnally advice none >>>>>> of them >>>>>> >>>>>> I tested both of them before stucking to Perl just because >>>>>> >>>>>> * it is very pleasant when it come to explore and modify >>>>>> datastructures and strings (which library things are). >>>>>> * the ecosystem is briliant: perl comes with lot of libraries and >>>>>> tools with a quality i haven't found in other languages. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, perl is not perfect and i really would like to use a >>>>>> modern emerging compiled language like go, rust, haskell or even >>>>>> something on the jvm (like clojure or the emerging perl6) but all of >>>>>> them miss libraries. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH >>>>>> regards >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Marc Chantreux >>>>>> Université de Strasbourg, Direction Informatique >>>>>> 14 Rue René Descartes, >>>>>> 67084 STRASBOURG CEDEX >>>>>> ☎: 03.68.85.57.40 >>>>>> http://unistra.fr >>>>>> "Don't believe everything you read on the Internet" >>>>>> -- Abraham Lincoln >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> http://www.blar.net/kurt/blog/ >>>