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The has been little interest in formalizing c4l, and many folks believe that our strength is in our ad hoc-ness. I generally resist getting involved in discussions of standards, because while I am a strong advocate for standards, I have been a member of NISO, invested a lot of time in a couple standards, and I have seen how the sausage is made, or more aptly, fails to get made. NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T, etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe that a formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we have already. As to the original reference, suffice it to say that I believe BISG — the US counterpart to BIC — sees libraries as competition and will not do anything to help them. On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Cornel Darden Jr. <[log in to unmask] > wrote: > Hello, > > I think code4lib is awesome and I've seen threads on this list before that > discussed whether code4lib should become a more traditional organization. I > think code4 lib is fine as it is, but I think we definitely need a > professional organization for librarians that code. These talks of > standards and guidelines may reflect such a need. I think LITA is awesome > as well! But is there not a need for something else? > > As far as print books go, they are much too slow and don't functionally > meet modern information needs, at least not in their current form (internet > of things?) Maybe a little AR would help. The DRM, publishing, software, > and standards issues are inhibitors, but I think the ship has sailed on the > millions of non connected print books in academic library shelves. I > wouldn't get rid of them. But their days are numbered. I think print books > are a niche and if we don't provide then we would lose an important part of > culture. But I do wonder, how many open stacks have clay tablets and > scrolls? Personally, I wish they did. But I wouldnt recommend that they be > used to do serious work. > > Cornel Darden Jr. > MSLIS > Library Department Chair > South Suburban College > 7087052945 > > "Our Mission is to Serve our Students and the Community through lifelong > learning." > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 7, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Salazar, Christina < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > Yes, I love C4L too, but > > > > Can/does C4L have players on NISO for example - what is C4L involvement > in standards? Should/could C4L be involved in standards? (And probably > tangentially, is C4L a professional organization?) > > > > Wow, this is turning into another iteration of the "library community > web standards" thread from last week, isn't it? > > > > But man, I think we're losing so many opportunities to have a voice in > the development of technologies that could be useful to us and our users. > > > > Christina > > PS, just to throw this back in response: I disagree that "current print > books in academic libraries aren't conducive to student learning" - they're > just more one tool in the research tool kit, aren't they and would they get > used more often if librarians made them easier to use? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Cary Gordon > > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 8:53 AM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC – > how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs) > > > > This is as good as it gets, which is pretty good in my opinion. > > > > Cary Gordon, MLS > > > > On Monday, October 6, 2014, Cornel Darden Jr. <[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Is there a professional organization for librarians who code? > > > > > > -- > > Cary Gordon > > The Cherry Hill Company > > http://chillco.com > -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com