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I am also interested in knowing this. Can you still include the T&Ds in your IR even if students don't pay the OA fee? How did you make it? I would appreciate it if you could include me in the email communication if you decide to discuss it directly. Thank you! Best, Lucy On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 7:13 AM, James, Heather <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Margaret and Deborah, > > How do you bypass the ProQuest fee? Currently our Graduate School directs > the whole process of submission for students, and they direct students to > pay the $55. There seems to be an assumption that it's contractually > obligated. I'd be interested to hear how you work around it - whether > through this list or directly. > > Thanks! > Heather > > -----Original Message----- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Heller, Margaret > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:35 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Are you paying royalty fees for the articles > deposited to the institutional repository? > > I have experienced one publisher asking for a fee. It was a European > journal. We don't have a budget for this, nor would I want to spend money > on it. But it does happen. CCC cannot grant perpetual rights for an IR, but > sometimes they can helpfully point you in the direction of the actual > copyright holder. I have been able to get permission that way. > > (We tell students not to pay the ProQuest OA fee for their theses). > > Margaret Heller > Digital Services Librarian > 773-508-2686 > > > On Apr 4, 2017, at 6:45 PM, Kyle Banerjee <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > > Gotta admit, I was taken aback by this. I don't see why we'd even > > consider it. If we're paying fees, someone else should be doing the work. > > > > kyle > > > >> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Tiewei Liu <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> > >> Good points! It seems that most libraries are not paying royalty fees > >> for the IR. The discussion is really helpful to us. Thank you all for > >> involving in it! > >> > >> > >> Best, > >> Lucy > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Fitchett, Deborah < > >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> > >>> What. What. > >>> > >>> I agree with Matt for journal articles etc: check SherpaRomeo to see > >>> if there's another version the publisher allows. > >>> > >>> If there's no version allowed we just won't deposit to the IR. (Or > >>> more precisely, it may be deposited to a 'dark archive' which we can > >>> use for PBRF (govt funding based on research outputs) audit purposes > >>> but never > >> goes > >>> public.) > >>> > >>> For theses, we require them all to be deposited OA into our IR in > >>> the first place (embargoes allowed under specific circumstances) and > >>> bypass ProQuest's whole money grab. > >>> > >>> We don't have money to waste buying back our own researchers' content! > >>> > >>> Deborah > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf > >>> Of James, Heather > >>> Sent: Wednesday, 5 April 2017 5:10 a.m. > >>> To: [log in to unmask] > >>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Are you paying royalty fees for the articles > >>> deposited to the institutional repository? > >>> > >>> We do not pay any fees for including faculty work in the IR, but our > >>> graduate students do have to pay a fee to ProQuest if they want > >>> their thesis/dissertation deposited open access into the IR. I'm not > >>> 100% clear on what this fee is for, so it's on my to-do list to > >>> investigate > >> further... > >>> > >>> Heather James > >>> > >>> Coordinator, Scholarly Communication & Digital Programs Raynor > >>> Memorial Libraries Marquette University > >>> 414-288-6295 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf > >>> Of Tiewei Liu > >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 11:31 AM > >>> To: [log in to unmask] > >>> Subject: [CODE4LIB] Are you paying royalty fees for the articles > >> deposited > >>> to the institutional repository? > >>> > >>> Hi everyone, > >>> > >>> > >>> We would like to know whether your libraries are paying royalty fees > >>> to the publishers in order to include faculty's publications in your > >>> institutional repositories. 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