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I think updating the Code of Conduct is a great idea but shutting down the thread for an unspecified period of time is a not-so-great idea. Joshua Welker Library Systems and Discovery Coordinator James C. Kirkpatrick Library University of Central Missouri Warrensburg, MO 64093 JCKL 2260 660.543.8022 On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:50 AM Francis Kayiwa <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Heya Kate my responses interleaved. For starters if there's any opacity > I will take this as my fault/oversight. You, Anne, Mark and I spoke in > San Jose about the transition to the CSSCSV group after the conference > and promised to work on this once we were done. Unfortunately I've been > dealing with lots of personal grief and this took less priority.... > > On 7/3/19 12:37 PM, Kate Deibel wrote: > > Honestly, this is worrisome to me. > > > > First, who are the members of the Community Support Squad? I can find no > mention of it anywhere on the website or the wiki. And it's disturbing that > such a group let such a coincidence in lack of coverage occur. Yes, there > were people listed for the 2019 conference, but to our knowledge, that was > to be only for the conference. > > It is the same group that was volunteered at the conference. > > https://2019.code4lib.org/conduct/#officers > > We didn't expect every one to want to continue but all the volunteers > offered to hang on during the transition process which once again I > failed to deliver on. > > > > > Two, shutting down any conversation while an unknown cabal (redundant, I > know) discusses a solution that is to come with no projected timeline not > only shuts down hurt but also prevents people from speaking up against any > hurt that has or is still happening. Imagine if you had done this exact > intervention yesterday after the emails about how the C4L mailing list was > only to about CODE. You would have prevented the many posters who stood up > to counter that narrative. Any teaching moments or learning that have come > afterwards would also have been squashed. All that would remain would be > the unchallenged statements of what the C4L community is only about: code. > That silence would speak way more hurt. Sure, the Community Support Squad > will eventually raise a solution... I mean a "pull request"... > > Bobbi pointed out (and I told you about a week ago via our DM twitter > that we were mostly out). Now it is fair to imagine if I'd actually > followed through on establishing a CSSCSV group as I promised you that > this perhaps could have been handled very differently. Again. Blame me > for this and that would be fair. > > > > > It's uncomfortably ironic in that this conversation started with > concerns about the transparency of the authorship and the procedures behind > the sexual harassment articles but is now being "handled" by an opaque > process where we are told to wait until the mystery box goes ping. > > > > I disagree here. The process isn't opaque. The processes will be > discussed and we welcome PR's via the aforementioned pull request. > Furthermore if that doesn't work, you and others are welcome to send > messages to [log in to unmask] > > I want to stress, I've gone rogue here and I am speaking without > consulting with the rest of the CSSCSV team. > > Cheers, > ./fxk >