Hi Yongming, The PKP PN plugin for OJS 3.x became available last week. It's in the Plugin Gallery. Announcement blog post is forthcoming. Thanks for using OJS! Mark ________________________________ From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Wang, Yongming <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 4:50 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Publishing announcement of Special Issue on AI, Machine Learning, Data Science, and Libraries Hi Deborah, You are right. We upgraded to OJS 3.x a few months ago, which is much better than 2.x in terms of its interface and usability, especially the direct openness of the PDF button/link. The only drawback to us is that the free LOCKSS Preservation Network available in 2.x is not yet available in 3.x. (https://pkp.sfu.ca/pkp-pn/). I don't know when that feature will be available. Thanks, Yongming On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 6:22 PM Fitchett, Deborah < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Kia ora Eric, > > It presumably depends on your browser's capabilities: when I click the PDF > links here, it opens up a page on which the PDF is embedded and I can read > it straight away after a single click. For me that's more convenient than > downloading it and having to open it in a PDF reader, then for the next > article close the PDF reader and switch back to the browser, and later > having to declutter my downloads folder. For people with browsers with > fewer bells and whistles (or for machine input like your program) there's > that extra click, but everything is trade-offs. > > I expect the OJS project would take feedback on better ways to architect > their software though. (Probably more reluctantly if it involved massive > database changes, but still...) > > Deborah > > From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Eric > Lease Morgan > Sent: Sunday, 26 July 2020 1:23 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Publishing announcement of Special Issue on AI, > Machine Learning, Data Science, and Libraries > > [...] > > https://journal.calaijol.org/index.php/ijol< > https://journal.calaijol.org/index.php/ijol> > [...] > > Yongming, thank you for bringing this to our attention. AI in libraries is > a hot topic, for sure. I sincerely look forward to looking them over. > > To anybody or everybody, let's suppose I wanted to read the whole issue of > the journal described above. How many clicks does it require to get the > content? In this case, the answer is 2 times the number of articles, or 3 > times the number of articles if I go through the DOI. The answer is at > least 18, if not 27. Furthermore, answer me this. What are the URLs > pointing to the PDF versions of the articles described above? > > "C'mon, Eric, don't be a jerk. Eighteen clicks is not so bad, especially > when you get the content for free." And my reply is, "It is not really the > number of clicks. Instead it is about conflation." The URLs to these things > -- as well as in many many many things across the 'Net -- are conflated. > The 'Net overflows with "not here but there" messages; the 'Net overflows > with "dummies" as they used to be called in libraries. You know, those > wooden blocks put on library shelves that say, "This book has been moved to > the Reserve Book Room until further notice." The dummies were frustrating. > > I'm sorry, but the utter truth is links break. The problem only gets > compounded when identifiers need to be resolved or splash ("landing") pages > get put in the way. > > I assert few people will read all of the articles in any journal if they > have to click through 18 different times in order to read/download the > documents. I assert even fewer people will read the whole of a conference > proceedings. Remember when conference proceedings where distributed in a > single volume, and you could easily peruse through the whole thing? We can > still have such a thing, if the links were managed differently. > > In short, I wish sites wouldn't tease me all along the way, and don't make > me hunt for the download link from the landing page. Give me the link to > the thing, not a surrogate. "Save the time of the reader." > > P.S. I "read" the issue, and I put the results here: > > https://carrels.distantreader.org/library/ai-in-libraries/< > https://carrels.distantreader.org/library/ai-in-libraries> > > -- > Eric Morgan > University of Notre Dame > > ________________________________ > > "The contents of this e-mail (including any attachments) may be > confidential and/or subject to copyright. Any unauthorised use, > distribution, or copying of the contents is expressly prohibited. If you > have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by return > e-mail or telephone and then delete this e-mail together with all > attachments from your system." > -- Yongming Wang Systems Librarian R. Barbara Gitenstein Library The College of New Jersey Email: [log in to unmask]