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CODE4LIB November 2012

Subject:

Re: COinS

From:

Jonathan Rochkind <[log in to unmask]>

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Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 20 Nov 2012 18:08:50 -0500

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Ah, does mendeley use coins too?

Are you saying Mendeley recognizes UnAPI too?  Or that Mendeley 
recognizes COinS embedded in page, but not UnAPI?

Interesting.

It's too bad that COinS does not validate under HTML5. I wish we could 
get mendeley, zotero, et al, to agree on some newer simple format. I've 
tried to reach out to various of them before with suggestions and offers 
to help them, with no takers.

On 11/20/2012 5:35 PM, David Lawrence wrote:
> For what it is worth, I can offer an approximate measure of the utility of
> COinS. After my online database had UnAPI metadata available for quite a
> while, I began receiving lots of requests for COinS from people who use
> Mendeley. Normally, I receive lots of complaints, requests and suggestions.
> I have received quite a few thank-you messages since adding COinS. I agree
> with the COinS negatives mentioned before.
>
> David W. Lawrence, PhD, MPH, Director
> Center for Injury Prevention Policy and Practice
> San Diego State University, School of Public Health
> 6475 Alvarado Road, Suite 105
> San Diego, CA  92120  [log in to unmask]
> V 619 594 1994   F 619 594 1995  Skype: DWL-SDCAwww.CIPPP.org  --
> www.SafetyLit.org
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> It _IS_ an old unused metadata format that should be replaced by something
>> else (among other reasons because it's actually illegal in HTML5), but I'm
>> not sure there is a "something else" with the right balance of flexibility,
>> simplicity, and actual adoption by consuming software.
>>
>> But COinS didn't have a whole lot of adoption by consuming software
>> either. Can you say what you think the COinS you've been adding are useful
>> for, what they are getting used for? And what sorts of 'citations' youw ere
>> adding them for? For my own curiosity, and because it might help answer if
>> there's another solution that would still meet those needs.
>>
>> But if you want to keep using COinS -- creating a COinS generator like
>> OCLC's no longer existing one is a pretty easy thing to do, perhaps some
>> code4libber reading this will be persuaded to find the time to create one
>> for you and others. If you have a server that could host it, you could
>> offer that. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/20/2012 4:47 PM, Bigwood, David wrote:
>>
>>> I've used the COinS Generator at OCLC for years. Now it is gone. Any
>>> suggestions on how I can get an occasional COinS for use in our
>>> bibliography? Do any of the citation managers generate COinS?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Or is this just an old unused metadata format that should be replaced by
>>> something else?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Dave Bigwood
>>>
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> Lunar and Planetary Institute
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

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