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Re: free HTML text editors - a compilation of responses

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Peter Schlumpf <[log in to unmask]>

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On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Sarles Patricia (18K500) <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Thank you to everyone who weighed in on free HTML text editors for my old
> Macs running 10.5.8. The only one that seemed to work is Thimble. My Macs
> at school are just too old - even for cloud-based editors. I looked into
> CodeAnywhere and Codio, which both worked on my Mac at home but not at work.
>
> Just in case anyone is interested in a compilation, I have compiled. I
> really appreciate everyone's help and forgive me if I missed one or two
> responses:
>
>
>
> There is no reason to install an editor for this purpose.  Mozilla has a
>
> suite of free apps for this purpose at Webmaker:
>
>
> https://webmaker.org
>
>
> Thimble is the editor, and I think it's very nice for students that
>
> there is immediate feedback so you can see how your change affects the
>
> rendering:
>
>
> https://thimble.webmaker.org/
>
>
> --
>
>
> As a bit of a left field alternative there’s always Vim.
>
>
> Ok it might not be the best introduction to text editors, but given it
>
> exists on pretty much every platform (including Android and iPhone/iPad -
>
> http://www.vim.org/download.php) there’d be no excuses for not doing the
>
> homework.
>
>
> The main Mac port (https://code.google.com/p/macvim/) has legacy versions
>
> back to 10.4. However, this might be more of an extra credit editor given
>
> that it takes *some* getting used to. There is a game
>
> (http://vim-adventures.com/) which can help with learning some of the
>
> basic Vim controls.
>
>
> --
>
>
> I used to use Smultron (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/15114/smultron)
> on
>
> my PowerBook G3. It's no Sublime text, but it does a pretty good job as far
>
> as GUI based text editors goes.
>
>
> I think someone forked the project and it's known as Fraise now. Depending
>
> on your computer's capabilities, that might be better or worse to run.
>
>
> --
>
>
> Well... you could see if SeaMonkey runs - it includes Composer which
>
> gives you both WYSIWIG and HTML source editing - or it's later
>
> derivatives NVU and Komposer.  Since those are relatively old, they
>
> should run on a circa 2008 Mac.
>
>
> Of course any text editor will let you edit HTML - and, assuming you're
>
> running OS X, you've got unix underneath.  You've pretty much got your
>
> pick of anything that will run in a console window or an X-window.
>
>
> Your real problem might be running a browser that's new enough to
>
> support HTML5 and CSS3.  Otherwise, editing HTML isn't going to do you
>
> much good.
>
>
> Apple won't let the most recent version of Safari run on 10.6.8 (you're
>
> stuck at 5.1.10), but Firefox (38.0.1) and Chrome (42.0.2311.152) are both
>
> fine.
>
>
> --
>
>
> Another thing you might want to check out - my alma mater has a CS MOOC
>
> that's aimed at supporting middle/high school CS classes and teachers -
>
> http://www.muddx.com/courses/HMC/MyCS/Middle-years_Computer_Science/about
> .
>
>
> --
>
>
> You might want to check out
>
> https://openhatch.org/wiki/Boston_Python_Workshop_6/Friday/OSX_text_editor
>
> - Boston Python Workshop has spent a while coming up with bulletproof
>
> instructions for people with a wide range of experience. The links at that
>
> page no longer work but the files are still available at Sourceforge, so
>
> you can make an amended version easily enough.
>
>
> --
>
>
> > If you do not need all the bells and whistles I would recommend
>
> > TextWrangler. Free versions should still be available online and its
>
> > bigger brother BBEdit is overkill for basic web editing.
>
>
> Actually, the significant difference between TextWrangler and BBEdit is
>
> that BBEdits has a number of features that are specifically for web
>
> design, that don't exist in TextWrangler.
>
>
> Looking at the version of BBEdit 9.1 that I have installed, the majority
>
> of it is in the 'Markup' menu:
>
>
> * Close current tag / Balance tags
>
> * Check syntax
>
> * Check links
>
> * Check accessibility
>
> * Cleaners for GoLive/PageMill/HomePage/DreamWeaver
>
> * Convert to HTML / XHTML
>
> * Menu items to insert tags (which then give what attributes are allowed)
>
> * Menu item to insert CSS
>
> * Preview in ... (gives a list of installed web browsers)
>
>
> ...
>
>
> That said, TextWrangler is still a good free editor -- and I personally
>
> rarely ever use the insert tags/CSS items (as I've been writing HTML for
>
> ... crap ... I feel old ... 20+ years).
>
>
> But to say that BBEdit is overkill for web editing is just wrong -- the
>
> majority of the feature differences are *specifically* for web editing.
>
>
> --
>
>
> There is always the good old standby of emacs:   http://aquamacs.org/
>
>
> --
>
>
> > The Macs are from 2008 and running I believe 10.6.8.
>
> >
>
> > I can double check that when I get to work, but I am right now working
> on a 2007 Mac running 10.6.8 so the ones at work might be running a
> slightly newer version, but they are definitely running OS 10 something.
>
> >
>
>
> This eliminates Atom.io and Sublime Text 3 (emphases on 3 because it
>
> *may* work with Sublime Text 2).
>
>
> I'm having a hard time calling those old ;-) but that's computing for
>
> you these days.
>
>
> I'm thinking TextWrangler will be your best bet to be honest.
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________
> Patricia Sarles, MA (Anthropology), MLS
> Librarian
> Jerome Parker Campus Library
> 100 Essex Drive
> Staten Island, NY 10314
> 718-370-6900 x1322
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>
> You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether
> a man is wise by his questions. - Naguib Mahfouz
>
> As a general rule the most successful man in life is the man who has the
> best information. - Benjamin Disraeli
>

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