I accidentally sent my reply just to Jonathan, and thus his reply came
to me directly. I agree with Johnathan on his things that annoy him.

Anyway, I'm inclined to go for some self policing here and say that we
should ask everyone that has a blog on Planet Code4lib to evaluate how
often their posts are on topic. If it is a majority of the time, then
they should do nothing. If it is only occasionally, they should set up
a  feed based on a  tag or category and send the information to
Johnathan or Antonio to edit (assuming Antonio is going to be helping out).

I also think that if there are some blogs as 1) Identified as being
mostly off topic, and 2) by people who are not actively (If at all )
involved in the community, that they should be contacted and ask the if
the mind being removed or if they would set up a category feed as
described above.

Edward - still doesn't like 115 pages of text on his browser


-------- Original Message --------
Subject:        Re: [CODE4LIB] planet.code4lib.org -- 3 suggestions
Date:   Fri, 23 May 2008 00:55:46 -0400
From:   Jonathan Rochkind <[log in to unmask]>
To:     <[log in to unmask]>



This is a good point. I think participation in the community is important in addition to content.

I actually DO think that the vast majority of feeds included have more 'on topic' posts than 'off topic' though. And I read the planet regularly myself. For the most part, I am happy with the content.  I will admit that the feeds that irrititate me the most are the ones that do ALL (not just one) of: 1) Have very long posts and/or very frequent posts 2) have very very few posts I consider 'on topic', and 3) Are not from people who participate in this community much at all, as far as I know (I could be wrong).

I am happy to include sub-feeds from any blog-writer that would like me to include a sub-feed, feel free to let me know. I would not like obligating blog posters who want to be in a feed to use any particular 'tag', or even 'tags' at all on their blog.  I am fine with a certain amount of "non topical" content, and agree that a _certain amount_, when from people who participate in one way or another in the community, can even be nice.  Within bounds.

Jonathan


>>> "Edward M. Corrado" <[log in to unmask]> 05/21/08 5:41 PM >>>
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> No one other than me is managing it at present. Pretty much the only
> 'management' I do is adding blogs whenever someone asks me too. (I also
> did just a bit of fine-tuning of the CSS for the html version).  I think
> it may be the planet software that decides what order to display
> lastname and firstname, but feel free to email me ones that are
> displaying oddly, and I'll see if I can fix them. I'm not going to get
> into serious hacking of the planet software though, or replacing it with
> other software (I _maybe_ could be convinced to upgrade it if there's an
> upgrade available).  (if anyone else wants to do any of that stuff,
> raise your hand on the list, and we can probably get you access).
>
> An unanswered question is when or if the community ever expects me to
> _remove_ blogs from the planet.  It's not clear. I don't want to remove
> them if people are going to see it as an abuse of power or something, as
> some have indicated they would. (Most could probably care less either way).
>
> Other blogs people have suggested I remove from the code4lib aggregator,
> as consisting of mainly nontopical content for code4lib, are Mark
> Lindner and Meredith Farkas.  I guess say so if you'd like to LEAVE
> those on the aggregator, and if nobody says so, I'll leave them. If
> someone does say so... then I have no idea. :)



If we were voting, I'd say remove them. While I enjoy Meredith's blog, it is
rather off topic. Of course the problem is this is a slippery slope.
Probably 90% of the blogs have more off-topic posts then on topic (mine
included). However, I also think this comes to community. If Meredith
regularly participated in code4lib, I'd say keep her. So, I guess what I'm
saying is content is not the only criteria in my mind (although it is an
important one).

Edward






>
> Jonathan
>
>
> Jodi Schneider wrote:
>
>> I'm a big fan of the planet aggregator. Normally I make suggestions on
>> #code4lib. However, Jonathan Rochkind asked me to bring them up onlist
>> this time. (Who besides Jonathan is managing the planet at present?)
>>
>> (1) Bjorn Tipling suggested removing him, since he's going to focus on
>> politics:
>> "Some of the places where my blog is being tracked, such as code4lib and
>> netlamers, might want to look at whether or not they want to continue to
>> follow me."
>> http://bjorn.tipling.com/2008/05/17/blog-pundits/
>> Can we remove his blog please?
>>
>> (2) I'd really like a changelog--which might further justify
>> adding/dropping blogs without discussion.
>>
>> (3) Could we please label blogs consistently? For individuals, we have
>> mostly lastname, firstname with a few firstname lastname. Either way
>> works. But the mixture rankles (sad, I know!).
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Jodi
>>
>> Jodi Schneider
>> Science Library Specialist
>> Amherst College
>> 413-542-2076
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Jonathan Rochkind
> Digital Services Software Engineer
> The Sheridan Libraries
> Johns Hopkins University
> 410.516.8886
> rochkind (at) jhu.edu
>