I agree on the need for branding, and on offering the community several
professionally-developed choices.

I worded that carefully. I'd like to see a professionally-designed logo for
the same reason I like to watch good software developers at work: the
quality of effort doth pleaseth the citizens. I'd like to see Code4Lib to
have a logo that reflects the quality of the people associated with its
loose sovereignty. Branding means a lot, and it tells many stories.

Without waxing prolix about those stories (though I'll be happy to do that
if anyone's interested in further justification for my argument), I'll move
on to say a little room for bubble-up efforts would also be apropos. You
never know who's out there or what they are possible of. ("Oh Brad, you guys
can't write an *ILS.*")

My take would be that if we have the resources, to offer the community
several choices from an entity whose business it is to design logos, yet
encourage write-ins.

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On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Edward M. Corrado <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> I am all for a logo, but I also agree with Kevin it needs to be a community
> based decision. I'm also not sold that we need a professional designed
> logo,
> but I'm not against it either. I can understand why a business would not
> want to leave it to amateurs (although I have seen some great logos created
> by design school students) but I'm not sure what a professional logo would
> give us that a community derived one wouldn't. Roy, what do you think that
> would be that would gain by using a professional logo company?
>
> Edward - actually wearing a code4lib conference t-shirt right now
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Carol Bean <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Well, looking at Software Freedom Day, which has somehow managed to get
> > itself a logo with virtually no organizational infrastructure, I don't
> see
> > why Code4Lib shouldn't.  I suspect their logo design wasn't done by
> > amateurs, however, even if they were volunteers.  Of course they have a
> much
> > larger, global base of  volunteers...
> >
> > I think it's a cool idea.
> >
> > Carol
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 19, 2008, at 11:39 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote:
> >
> >  I like the idea.  A real logo would be nice.  My one caveat is I'd
> >> still like everyone who'd like to have a voice to have one (I like
> >> voting).  I'd be less in favor of a committee of volunteers to make
> >> the decision.  I don't know how that would work with a professional
> >> graphic designer though.  Could they give us several options and open
> >> it up to a vote?
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Roy Tennant <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I was in the middle of writing a blog post about Code4Lib going
> regional
> >>> when it hit me -- here we have this incredibly successful brand and yet
> >>> we
> >>> lack a t-shirt. But I guess we lack a t-shirt because we lack a logo to
> >>> put
> >>> on it. The closest we get are the items that decorate our web site. Are
> >>> we
> >>> at the point where we're ready to establish an official graphic
> identity,
> >>> that can grace our web site, journal, conference, etc.? I think so.
> >>>
> >>> So here's my proposal: we take some of the money that has been passed
> >>> down
> >>> from conference to conference and we hire a graphic designer to do a
> >>> professional job of it. Branding is best not left to amateurs. We put
> >>> together a committee of volunteers to handle it.
> >>>
> >>> I know of at least one design firm that I think would do a good job,
> >>> since
> >>> they just designed a t-shirt for OCLC that we really liked, and they
> were
> >>> delighted to work with library coders. See
> >>> <http://www.sanchezcircuit.com/catalog/>. There are no doubt others as
> >>> well.
> >>>
> >>> One of the nice things about a logo is that although it establishes a
> >>> solid
> >>> graphic identity, it doesn't really take any organizational
> >>> infrastructure
> >>> to do it, which seems to fit right in with the c4l vibe. So am I crazy?
> >>> Stupid? Or right? You decide.
> >>> Roy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> There are two kinds of people in the world: those who believe there
> >> are two kinds of people and those who know better.
> >>
> >
> > Carol Bean
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
>



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