Hi Nate,
Many thanks for the feedback. I will compile all the feedback at the end of next week and send it out.
I appreciate very much your comments about CMS downfalls compared to good ole html and css architecture. Right on with the comment! The truth is that we have done a pretty good job of building a well architected html site but it is starting to become more and more logic driven; so, if we don't do something soon our site will become a mash of home grown codeletts. I too have an adversion to CMSs and have putting it off as long as possible.
Thanks for being a great sport about sharing experiences.
The Best,
David
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David Moody "email is for old people" - high school student 2006
Claude Moore Health Sciences Library Webmaster
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UVa Health System
P.O. Box 800722
Charlottesville VA 22908
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Nate Vack
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 5:02 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommendations, Drupal, Plone, Expression
> engine, Joomla
>
> Quick answer: I'd recommend, just as soon, not switching to a CMS.
>
> I managed a CMS conversion and wound up switching back after a couple
> of years. It turned out that when it came down to it, the technical
> hurdles involved in managing HTML were minuscule compared to the
> challenges of writing good web content and doing somewhat sane
> information architecture.
>
> Doing the edits we *did* want was somewhat more clumsy (those WYSIWYG
> editors are a little flakey and markdown is limiting) and making
> content look the way we wanted was more trouble than it had been with
> Dreamweaver.
>
> If you've got a really dynamic site with a bunch of logic, a CMS might
> be your friend... but if you've pretty much got a static site, don't
> just migrate to a CMS because they're all 2.0 and stuff. Your energy
> may be better spent coming up with good, clean semantic markup and
> clear stylesheet rules that your staff can use.
>
> Cheers,
> -Nate
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Moody, David (dam8u)
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Quick polling question. Hoping to get response from my Code4Lib
> friends.
> >
> > We are looking to rollout an open source CMS for our public medical
> library web site and was interested in getting your individual opinion.
> We do not integrate with our ILS.
> >
> > I will compile the results and send them to the list, so; you can
> reply directly to me if you want. Here is the short list:
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > CMS |Are You Using it |Rating (1-10)
> 10=best, 1=worst
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > Drupal | yes/no | |
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > Plone | yes/no | |
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > Expression Engine | yes/no | |
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > Joomla | yes/no | |
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > Other | yes/no | |
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > YOUR COMMENTS ARE WELCOME TOO:
> >
> > Many Thanks!
> > David
> > ******************
> > David Moody "email is for old people" - high school
> student 2006
> > Claude Moore Health Sciences Library Webmaster
> > [log in to unmask] , tel: 434-982-3648, mobile: 434-989-5481
> >
> > UVa Health System
> > P.O. Box 800722
> > Charlottesville VA 22908
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of
> >> Mark Jordan
> >> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 2:57 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Integrating OCS and Drupal
> >>
> >> Hi Lisa,
> >>
> >> I'm cc'ing the drupal4lib list in case anyone there wants to jump
> in.
> >>
> >> Depending on what level of integration you're after, it would pretty
> >> straight forward to write a Drupal module that reads data from an
> >> instance of OCS and displays it in a block, for example. A common
> >> strategy in Drupal development is to connect to an external database
> >> using the db_set_active() function (see http://drupal.org/node/18429
> >> for detail), populate the Drupal block, and then switch back to
> >> Drupal's default database. Of course, you'd have to write SQL to get
> >> the desired data out of the OCS tables but that shouldn't be very
> >> difficult.
> >>
> >> Also, the new Drupal Views2 API should let you do this in a more
> >> sophisticated way than straight SQL can (see
> >> http://drupal.org/node/235062#comment-1050295 for an example), and
> now
> >> that the Views2 module has been officially released, this approach
> >> might be worth investigating.
> >>
> >> If you want to do more than just read data from OCS into your Drupal
> >> instance, you'd have to do more work than what I describe above.
> Since
> >> OCS does a lot of workflow management, I'd caution against injecting
> >> data into the OCS database that could cause problems with workflows
> or
> >> submission status. Check the OCS/PKP support forums, and post
> questions
> >> if necessary, before using an external application to update the OCS
> >> database.
> >>
> >> All that being said, can you provide more detail on what you mean by
> >> 'integration'?
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> Mark Jordan
> >> Head of Library Systems
> >> W.A.C. Bennett Library, Simon Fraser University
> >> Burnaby, British Columbia, V5A 1S6, Canada
> >> Voice: 778.782.5753 / Fax: 778.782.3023
> >> [log in to unmask]
> >>
> >> ----- "Lise Brin" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Have any of you done any work integrating OCS (Open Conference
> >> > Systems)
> >> > with Drupal?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > **************
> >> >
> >> > Lise Brin, MLIS
> >> >
> >> > Emerging Services Librarian
> >> >
> >> > St. Francis Xavier University
> >> >
> >> > PO Box 5000
> >> >
> >> > Antigonish NS
> >> >
> >> > B2G 2W5
> >> >
> >> > Phone (902) 867-3669
> >
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