On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Godmar Back <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Not that I know of.
>>
>> You can say display:none, but that'll probably hide it from LibX etc too.
>
> No, why would it.

I agree with Godmar -- everything should be using the DOM.  The tag is
still there.  Of course, if the COinS processor is inserting its
output into the span tag, you might have a problem...

-Ross.
>
> BTW, I don't see why screen readers would stumble over this when the
> child of the <span> is empty. Do they try to read empty text?  And if
> a COinS is processed, we fix up the title so tooltips show nicely.
>
>  - Godmar
>
>>
>> What is needed is a CSS @media for screen readers, like one exists for
>> 'print'. So you could have a seperate stylesheet for screenreaders, like you
>> can have a seperate stylesheet for print. That would be the right way to do
>> it.
>>
>> But doesn't exist.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> Thomas Dowling wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/04/2008 02:02 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I had recently noticed indepedently, been unhappy with the way a
>>>> COinS "title" shows up in mouse-overs, and is reccommended to be used by
>>>> screen readers. Oops.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> By any chance, do current screen readers honor something like '<span
>>> class="Z3988" style="speak:none" title=...>'?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Rochkind
>> Digital Services Software Engineer
>> The Sheridan Libraries
>> Johns Hopkins University
>> 410.516.8886 rochkind (at) jhu.edu
>>
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