As someone that went to ELAG for the first time this year, I think this 
is a great idea. ELAG was an excellent conference and I think a one day 
code4lib pre-conference would supplement it nicely. Although I've only 
been to one Access and one ELAG, I think Ross is correct that it is more 
like Access (minus the hackfest) than any other North American 
library-related conference.

Edward

Peter Noerr wrote:
> As a long time founder member of ELAG I think this is an excellent idea. In its early days (for maybe the first 10 years) ELAG was a very technical meeting (yes, you *can* be geeky about mainframe software - all we had back then), but it has moved from that over time for all the best of reasons. I can't speak about the meeting in Bratislava, as I wasn't there, but it has over the years become more edu-torial and less cutting edge. I think it would benefit from the addition of a whole day of decidedly technical content in addition to the review and descriptive papers and its own very strong workshop format.
>
> Peter Noerr
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>> Frumkin, Jeremy
>> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 08:51
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>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] code4lib / elag2010
>>
>> Hi Nicolas -
>>
>> I think what you are planning to do is great, and I personally can't see
>> any issues with what you've described. There is a code4lib NW event today
>> in Oregon, and there have been a number of "regional" code4lib events put
>> together by members of the community.
>>
>> To me, holding events like this are exactly what code4lib is all about.
>>
>>
>> -- jaf
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>> Nicolas Morin
>> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:34 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [CODE4LIB] code4lib / elag2010
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> A number of the code4lib community members are based in Europe : some
>> of us where at the code4lib conference in the US in February; some of
>> us where at the ELAG conference in Bratislava in Europe last April.
>> There has been some talks about a code4lib conference in Europe in the
>> past. At ELAG in April this idea came up again. But as Eric Lease
>> Morgan noted in this forum a while ago on this subject, it would not
>> be a good idea to duplicate efforts. ELAG itself is not as hands-on
>> and geeky as code4lib : Ross Singer, who was at ELAG this year, said
>> he found it more like Access. And while we don't want to duplicate
>> efforts, we feel there's a place for a more technically oriented
>> event.
>> So, after some discussion with the people from ELAG, here's what we
>> propose for 2010 : not a Code4lib Europe conference, but an addition
>> to the existing ELAG conference : a one-day, pre-conference seminar
>> for the code4lib community. Something hands-on, technical. Something
>> about Lucene/solr in it's many incarnations was suggested, but we're
>> very much open to other suggestions at this stage.
>>
>> I want to make sure that the code4lib community finds it appropriate
>> that we use the code4lib "space" to setup something that's going to be
>> tied to another conference (ELAG). I don't think there's an issue
>> here, but I want to make sure no one feels the code4lib "brand" is
>> being inappropriately used.
>>
>> I also want to make sure that those of you who are interested can
>> participate in the setting up of this pre-conference : I opened a
>> (more or less blank, at this stage) wiki page for this at
>> http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Code4lib/elag2010
>>
>> The code4lib community members who have expressed interest in setting
>> this up so far are : Jakob Voss, Etienne Posthumus, Peter VanBoheemen,
>> Till Kinstler and myself. If you're interested in this effort, feel
>> free to go edit the wiki page.
>>
>> You can get more information about ELAG 2009 at
>> http://indico.ulib.sk/elag2009
>> ELAG 2010 will be hosted by the Finnish national library in Helsinki,
>> in June 2010
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nicolas
>>
>> --
>> Nicolas Morin
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