This would require multiple cases. But if they were distributed to
different points, the chances of losing them all would be reduced...
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:35 AM, David J. Fiander<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> You know, putting Dick Cheney is a pelican case might have solved a lot of
> problems later on.
>
> - David
>
> On 27-Aug-2009, at 13:30 , Rosalyn Metz wrote:
>
>> ah good. then we are agreeing. strike the whole disagree with ed portion
>> of my email.
>>
>> also i like the pelican idea too. it reminds me of dick cheney in an
>> undisclosed location.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Edward M. Corrado
>> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Roslyn,
>>>
>>> I probably wasn't clear.... I didn't mean to say don't use cloud storage
>>> if
>>> you think it is a good solution, in many cases it could be. I meant that
>>> if
>>> you really want to preserve your data you need to do more than put it in
>>> the
>>> cloud (or for that matter on a local storage device). It is not a
>>> panacea.
>>> Just like if you were housing it locally you need to make sure you have
>>> redundant copies.
>>>
>>> Edward
>>>
>>>
>>> Rosalyn Metz wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have to agree with Ed. You should have a good policy in place for
>>>> backing
>>>> up your data. Just throwing it on a server isn't a policy.
>>>>
>>>> At the same time I would have to disagree with Ed. You should look at
>>>> S3
>>>> as
>>>> if it was your own server. What is the guarantee that you supply to
>>>> your
>>>> users with your own server. The snap server we use here (instead of S3)
>>>> is
>>>> the back up to a back up system already in place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Edward M. Corrado <[log in to unmask]
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Rosalyn's post made me think of one more thing.... if you are looking
>>>>> into
>>>>> outside entities (such as we are), what are the terms of service and
>>>>> what
>>>>> guarantee do they offer they won't lose your data? I believe that A3
>>>>> does
>>>>> not offer any guarantee, so if you go with them, you probably want to
>>>>> have
>>>>> some other form of storage as well. Even if they offered a guarantee,
>>>>> what
>>>>> good is it once they loose your documents you were trying to preserve?
>>>>>
>>>>> Edward Corrado
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rosalyn Metz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Edward,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Might I suggest you look into cloud computing services if you're
>>>>>> looking
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> different options. (I know you're all shocked I suggested it). If our
>>>>>> budget weren't so abysmal (and going to get worse) we would be using
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> right now rather than the snap server we purchased with leftover
>>>>>> funds.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> benefits of using the cloud is of course the elasticity it offers you.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> negative is that you have to pay to put your files into the cloud and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> pay again to take them out (and since we've already been slashed 30%
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> guaranteed another slash...that idea was shot down).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course the major player out there is Amazon S3. The problem is
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> can't use S3 via Amazon's Web Management Console. But there is a
>>>>>> company
>>>>>> called RightScale (http://www.rightscale.com/index.php) which has a
>>>>>> web
>>>>>> management console that allows you to upload files quickly and easily
>>>>>> without having to write scripts and what not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, just my two cents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rosalyn
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Edward Iglesias
>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I was trying to figure out what to do with half a terabyte of
>>>>>>> archival TIFFS it occurred to me that perhaps someone else had this
>>>>>>> problem. We are starting to produce massive amounts of digital
>>>>>>> objects (videos, archival TIFFS, audio interviews). Up until now we
>>>>>>> have been dealing with ways to display them to the public. Now we
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> starting to look at "dark archives" like OCLC's digital archive
>>>>>>> product. I would welcome any suggestions from those of you who have
>>>>>>> dealt with this on an archival level. It's one thing to stick the
>>>>>>> stuff up on a server, but then what? Our CIO suggested storage
>>>>>>> appliances like this one
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.drobo.com/products/index.php
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but I am wary of the proprietary RAID system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>> Edward Iglesias
>>>>>>> Systems Librarian
>>>>>>> Central Connecticut State University
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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