Copyright rules would apply regardless of format and general counsel
interpretations wouldn't really apply to this scenario.

Andrew Shuping

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about life: it goes on."



On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:17 PM, karim boughida <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> It seems that it is also related to copyright restrictions and general
> counsel interpretations. If you print and re-scan. You're safer.
> photocopy rules apply and not electronic copy.
> Don't ask me more. I'm not a lawyer.
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> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Andrew Shuping <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Ranti is correct in what she says about publishers.  As an ILL person
>> it drives me nuts that there are so many loopholes just to be able to
>> send stuff from our databases via ILL.  Some of them say you can but
>> you have to download it, print it, and then scan it again.  It isn't
>> the ILL practices that need improvement, its bringing publishers into
>> the 21st century.
>>
>> And as far as making it searchable its just not an option for a lot of
>> library ILL departments when they have to rescan the document.  There
>> are only two sending programs for ILL software (Ariel and Odyssey)
>> outside of email and Ariel is a huge pain in the butt as to what type
>> of scanners work with it.  And while Odyssey can support more scanners
>> a number of ILL departments just don't have the money to buy a
>> scanner/software to make it OCR compatible documents.
>>
>> Andrew Shuping
>> Emerging Technologies & Services/Interlibrary Loan
>> Jack Tarver Library, Macon, GA
>> Robert Frost - "In three words I can sum up everything I've learned
>> about life: it goes on."
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>>
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>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Ranti Junus <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> It depends on the license agreement between the publisher and the
>>> lending library. Many publishers do not allow library ILL to simply
>>> download the PDF directly from their journal article page and send it
>>> to the requestor.  A lot of publishers allow the lending library to
>>> download and print the article, and then send it to the borrowing
>>> library as paper copy. There are also  publishers who allow to send
>>> article as print-scan-send. That is, we have to print out the PDF,
>>> scan it (back to the PDF), and send it as a file.
>>>
>>> Do ask me why the publisher want that kind of silliness. That's what
>>> I'm told when I complaint about exactly the same thing.
>>>
>>> It is my understanding the scan-to-pdf is the problematic one; ILL
>>> unit will need to have OCR-capable scanner and that might add another
>>> burden to them if the OCR result is not good. YMMV.
>>>
>>>
>>> ranti.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:18 PM, don warner saklad <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> How do you request digital format for a pdf interlibrary loan journal
>>>> article where a digital format is available for the article?... not the
>>>> image format if available in digital. Guidelines for interlibrary loan
>>>> practices need to distinguish digital pdf from image pdf where journal
>>>> articles are available in digital format.
>>>>
>>>
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