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Subject:

Re: iPads as Kiosks

From:

Alexander Johannesen <[log in to unmask]>

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Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 25 Aug 2011 08:44:59 +1000

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Just my two bobs ;

We're going through various stages of testing out tablets for both
kiosks *and* portable workstations (for nurses and staff), and have
tried out iPads and various Androids, and our current favorite is
actually the Asus Eee Pad Transformer, a vanilla (but good quality)
Honeycomb Android during day, but with a snap-on keyboard with extra
ports and batteries for some netbook action at night, so it satisfies
both our criteria.

As with all things, it also depends on what software you want to run.
If you go with iPad you need to go through Apple's various
restrictions, while on Android you can use whatever you want. For a
"you are here" tablet a cheap 150$ Android seems like a good option,
too.


Regards,

Alex



On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Madrigal, Juan A
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> That零 the equivalent to $25/month and includes support for your whole
> development team/institution.
>
> If your employer can't afford that then I suggest you look for a new job!
> ;)
>
> Juan Madrigal
>
> Web Developer
> Web and Emerging Technologies
> University of Miami
> Richter Library
>
>
>
> On 8/23/11 2:21 PM, "Dan Funk" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>Wow, just $300/year and you can run your own software on your own
>>hardware? What a deal.
>>
>>On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:13 PM, David Uspal <[log in to unmask]>
>>wrote:
>>> Thanks for the update.   This definitely solves that issue -- its
>>>unfortunate this wasn't in place in 2009, or I'd be into year two of a
>>>five year contract...
>>>
>>> David K. Uspal
>>> Technology Development Specialist
>>> Falvey Memorial Library
>>> Phone: 610-519-8954
>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>>>Andrew Hankinson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:00 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
>>>
>>> You can distribute apps via an internal web server, with no need to go
>>>out to Apple.
>>>
>>>
>>>http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#featuredarticles/FA_Wireless_Ente
>>>rprise_App_Distribution/Introduction/Introduction.html
>>>
>>> You need to be a registered business to do this, and it costs $299/yr.
>>>You get a digital certificate, but that doesn't mean your code needs to
>>>be "seen" by anyone outside of your org.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2011-08-23, at 1:47 PM, David Uspal wrote:
>>>
>>>> When I did my iPhone work, it was back in 2009 before this document
>>>>even existed, so it's good they've come some distance on this issue
>>>>since then.  Still, the document below doesn't break the dependency on
>>>>the iTunes store and/or a digital certificate issued by Apple to
>>>>download applications (if I'm reading page 63 right), which was the big
>>>>sticking point of the contract.  Not only did the user not want the
>>>>network controlled by Apple (which this document does handle), they
>>>>also didn't want the code seen by any outside source at all (aka via
>>>>uploading it to the store)....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David K. Uspal
>>>> Technology Development Specialist
>>>> Falvey Memorial Library
>>>> Phone: 610-519-8954
>>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>>>>Of Andrew Hankinson
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:34 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
>>>>
>>>> They now have an enterprise app deployment mechanism.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/enterprise/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2011-08-23, at 12:54 PM, David Uspal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Then again, by selecting the iPad you're essentially tethered to
>>>>>Apple's iron grip of the iWorld via its iTunes vetting process and
>>>>>strict control of Apple hardware.   YMMV on this depending on what
>>>>>you're doing, but it should definitely be a consideration when
>>>>>choosing between Android tablets and the iPad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quick side story -- we had to drop a contract one time at my old job
>>>>>due to the customer proprietary requirements.  The customer didn't
>>>>>want to release its developed software outside of house (minus the
>>>>>developers of course) and Apple wouldn't give them a waiver from using
>>>>>the iTunes store.  Mind you, this was a very big company with
>>>>>resources, so Apple probably lost a 5000 unit sale due to this....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> David K. Uspal
>>>>> Technology Development Specialist
>>>>> Falvey Memorial Library
>>>>> Phone: 610-519-8954
>>>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>>>>>Of Stephen X. Flynn
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:01 AM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] iPads as Kiosks
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's not forget a far superior user experience.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----
>>>>> Stephen X. Flynn
>>>>> Emerging Technologies Librarian
>>>>> Andrews Library, College of Wooster
>>>>> 1140 Beall Ave.
>>>>> Wooster, OH 44691
>>>>> (330) 263-2154
>>>>> http://www.sxflynn.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 22, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Madrigal, Juan A wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would definitely go with the iPad. More accessories, better
>>>>>>support and
>>>>>> consistency.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Juan Madrigal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Web Developer
>>>>>> Web and Emerging Technologies
>>>>>> University of Miami
>>>>>> Richter Library
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/22/11 11:19 AM, "Dan Funk" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a good discussion here about Android vs iPad based tables
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>> use as Kiosks - lots of good information to consider.
>>>>>>> I'd love to hear what you end up doing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6050217/android-tablet-or-ipad-for
>>>>>>>-kios
>>>>>>> k-device
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Kyle Banerjee
>>>>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Edward Iglesias
>>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apologies if this has been covered already but do any of you have
>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>> using iPads as kiosks?  We would like to set up several as
>>>>>>>>>directional
>>>>>>>>> beacons with a sot of "you are here" feature.  I've found several
>>>>>>>>>apps
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> the kiosk feature but the home button seems to be an issue.
>>>>>>>>> Suggestions
>>>>>>>>> include a case that locks out the home button such as this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For kiosks, it seems like wifi chromebooks might be a decent
>>>>>>>>option.
>>>>>>>> They're
>>>>>>>> cheaper than ipads, can't do anything other than browse the web,
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> easy to plug in external peripherals like keyboards, mice, and
>>>>>>>>monitors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> kyle
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Kyle Banerjee
>>>>>>>> Digital Services Program Manager
>>>>>>>> Orbis Cascade Alliance
>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask] / 503.877.9773
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>



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