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Re: Usage and financial data aggregation

From:

Jonathan Rochkind <[log in to unmask]>

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Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:58:19 -0400

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Thanks, I added this as a comment on the code4lib talk page from the conf.

If anyone else happens to be looking for a video and finds it, and you 
want to add it to the code4lib talk page in question, it would probably 
be useful for findability.

In the past I think someone bulk added the URLs to all the talk pages, 
but I guess that didn't happen this time, I guess actually cause there 
aren't split videos of each talk but just video of the whole session? 
Hmm, I guess that makes it harder to figure out what the URL to the 
right minute of the talk should be, unless you're Jason. Oh well. Thanks 
Jason!

On 9/14/2011 1:49 PM, Jason Stirnaman wrote:
> PS, Here's the link for jumping to Thomas Browning's Metridoc talk: http://www.indiana.edu/~video/stream/launchflash.html?format=MP4&folder=vic&filename=C4L2011_session_2_20110208.mp4&starttime=3600
>
>
> Jason Stirnaman
> Biomedical Librarian, Digital Projects
> A.R. Dykes Library, University of Kansas Medical Center
> [log in to unmask]
> 913-588-7319
>
>
>>>> On 9/14/2011 at 11:13 AM, in message<[log in to unmask]>, Jonathan Rochkind<[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
>
> Yeah, I think it ends up being pretty hard to create general-purpose
> solutions to this sort of thing that are both not-monstrous-to-use and
> flexible enough to do what everyone wants.  Which is why most of the
> 'data warehouse' solutions you see end up being so terrible, in my
> analysis.
>
> I am not sure if there is any product specifically focused on library
> usage/financial data -- that might end up being somewhat less monstrous,
> it seems the more you focus your use case (instead of trying to provide
> for general "data warehouse and analysis"), the more likely a software
> provider can come up with something that isn't insane.
>
> At the 2011 Code4Lib Conf,  Thomas Barker from UPenn presented on some
> open source software they were developing (based on putting together
> existing open source packages to be used together) to provide
> library-oriented 'data warehousing'.  I was interested that he talked
> about how their _first_ attempt at this ended up being the sort of
> monstrous flexible-but-impossible-to-use sort of solution we're talking
> about, but they tried to learn from their experience and start over,
> thinking they could do better. I'm not sure what the current status of
> that project is.  I'm not sure if any 2011 code4lib conf video is
> available online? If it is, it doesn't seem to be linked to from the
> conf presentation pages like it was in past years:
>
> http://code4lib.org/conference/2011/barker
>
> On 9/13/2011 5:37 PM, Jason Stirnaman wrote:
>> Thanks, Shirley! I remember seeing that before but I'll look more closely now.
>> I know what I'm describing is also known, typically, as a data warehouse. I guess I'm trying to steer around the usual solutions in that space. We do have an Oracle-driven data warehouse on campus, but the project is in heavy transition right now and we still had to do a fair amount of work ourselves just to get a few data sources into it.
>>
>>
>> Jason Stirnaman
>> Biomedical Librarian, Digital Projects
>> A.R. Dykes Library, University of Kansas Medical Center
>> [log in to unmask]
>> 913-588-7319
>>
>>
>>>>> On 9/13/2011 at 04:25 PM, in message<[log in to unmask]>, Shirley Lincicum<[log in to unmask]>   wrote:
>> Jason,
>>
>> Check out: http://www.needlebase.com/
>>
>> It was not developed specifically for libraries, but it supports data
>> aggregation, analysis, web scraping, and does not require programming
>> skills to use.
>>
>> Shirley
>>
>> Shirley Lincicum
>> Librarian, Western Oregon University
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Jason Stirnaman<[log in to unmask]>   wrote:
>>> Does anyone have suggestions or recommendations for platforms that can aggregate usage data from multiple sources, combine it with financial data, and then provide some analysis, graphing, data views, etc?
>>>   From what I can tell, something like Ex Libris' Alma would require all "fulfillment" transactions to occur within the system.
>>> I'm looking instead for something like Splunk that would accept log data, circulation data, usage reports, costs, and Sherpa/Romeo authority data but then schematize it for data analysis and maybe push out reporting dashboards<nods to Brown Library http://library.brown.edu/dashboard/widgets/all/>
>>> I'd also want to automate the data retrieval, so that might consist of scraping, web services, and FTP, but that could easily be handled separately.
>>> I'm aware there are many challenges, such as comparing usage stats, shifts in journal aggregators, etc.
>>> Does anyone have any cool homegrown examples or ideas they've cooked up for this? Pie in the sky?
>>>
>>>
>>> Jason
>>> Jason Stirnaman
>>> Biomedical Librarian, Digital Projects
>>> A.R. Dykes Library, University of Kansas Medical Center
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> 913-588-7319
>>>

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