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Re: Worldcat schema.org & search API

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Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]>

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Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:27:36 -0400

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Every entry has a <link href="http://worldcat.org/oclc/{oclcnumber}"/>
that will take you to the schema.org.

-Ross.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> That only returns a "short citation" but nothing says how short that
> citation is, nor if it is formatted. I assume that "citation" means citation
> format, which isn't useful.
>
> kc
>
>
> On 7/10/12 7:32 PM, Ross Singer wrote:
>>
>> Worldcat does have the "basic" API, which is "more" "open" (assuming your
>> situation qualifies). At any rate, it's free and open to (non-commercial)
>> non-subscribers.
>>
>> http://oclc.org/developer/documentation/worldcat-basic-api/using-api
>>
>> Searching isn't terribly sophisticated, but might suit your need. And the
>> schema.org data will be much richer than what you'd normally get back from
>> the Basic API.
>>
>> -Ross.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012, Karen Coyle wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/10/12 4:02 PM, Richard Wallis wrote:
>>>
>>>> But is it available to everyone, and is the data retrieved also usable
>>>> as
>>>> ODC-BY by any member of the Web public?
>>>>
>>>> Yes it is, and at this stage it is only available from within a html
>>>> page.
>>>>
>>> The "it" I was referring to was the API. Roy is telling me that people
>>> should use the API, as if that is an obvious option that I am
>>> overlooking.
>>> I am asking if the general web public can use the API to get this data. I
>>> believe that should be a yes/no question/answer.
>>>
>>> kc
>>>
>>>
>>> This experiment is the first step in a process to make linked data about
>>> WorldCat resources available. As it will evolve over time other areas
>>> such
>>> as API access, content-negotiation, search & other query methods,
>>> additional RDF data vocabularies, etc., etc., will be considered in
>>> concert
>>> with community feedback (such as this thread) as to the way forward.
>>>
>>> Karen I know you are eager to work with and demonstrate the benefits of
>>> this way of publishing data. But these things take time and effort, so
>>> please be a little patient, and keep firing off these use cases and
>>> issues
>>> they are all valuable input.
>>>
>>> ~Richard.
>>>
>>>
>>> kc
>>>
>>>
>>> Roy
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Kevin Ford <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> The use case clarifies perfectly.
>>>
>>> Totally feasible. Well, I should say "totally feasible" with the caveat
>>> that I've never used the Worldcat Search API. Not letting that stop me,
>>> so
>>> long as it is what I imagine it is, then a developer should be able to
>>> perform a search, retrieve the response, and, by integrating one of the
>>> tools advertised on the schema.org website into his/her code, then
>>> retrieve
>>> the microdata for each resource returned from the search (and save it as
>>> RDF
>>> or whatever).
>>>
>>> If someone has created something like this, do speak up.
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/10/2012 04:48 PM, Karen Coyle wrote:
>>>
>>> Kevin, if you misunderstand then I undoubtedly haven't been clear
>>> (let's
>>> at least share the confusion :-)). Here's the use case:
>>>
>>> PersonA wants to create a comprehensive bibliography of works by
>>> AuthorB. The goal is to do a search on AuthorB in WorldCat and extract
>>> the RDFa data from those pages in order to populate the bibliography.
>>>
>>> Apart from all of the issues of getting a perfect match on authors and
>>> of manifestation duplicates (there would need to be editing of the
>>> results after retrieval at the user's end), how feasible is this? Assume
>>> that the author is prolific enough that one wouldn't want to look up all
>>> of the records by hand.
>>>
>>> kc
>>>
>>> On 7/10/12 1:43 PM, Kevin Ford wrote:
>>>
>>> As for someone who might want to do this programmatically, he/she
>>> should take a look at the "Programming languages" section of the
>>> second link I sent along:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://schema.rdfs.org/tools.****html<http://schema.rdfs.org/tools.**html>
>>> <http://schema.rdfs.org/**tools.html <http://schema.rdfs.org/tools.html>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There one can find Ruby, Python, and Java extractors and parsers
>>> capable of outputting RDF. A developer can take one of these and
>>> programmatically get at the data.
>>>
>>> Apologies if I am misunderstanding your intent.
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/10/2012 04:34 PM, Karen Coyle wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Kevin! And Richard!
>>>
>>> I'm thinking we need a good web site with links to tools. I had
>>> already
>>> been introduced to
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/2012/pyRdfa/
>>>
>>> where you can past a URI and get ttl or rdf/xml. These are all good
>>> resources. But what about someone who wants to do this
>>> programmatically,
>>> not through a web site? Richard's message indicates that this isn't
>>> yet
>>> available, so perhaps we should be gathering use cases to support the
>>> need? And have a place to post various solutions, even ones that are
>>> not
>>> OCLC-specific? (Because I am hoping that the use of microformats will
>>> increase in general.)
>>>
>>> kc
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/10/12 12:12 PM, Kevin Ford wrote:
>>>
>>> is there an open search to get one to the desired records in the
>>> first
>>>
>>> place?
>>>
>>> -- I'm not certain this will fully address your question, but try
>>> these two sites:
>>>
>>> Website: <http://www.google.com/**webmasters/tools/richsnippets>
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Karen Coyle
> [log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net
> ph: 1-510-540-7596
> m: 1-510-435-8234
> skype: kcoylenet

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