On 7/10/12 4:02 PM, Richard Wallis wrote:
>
> But is it available to everyone, and is the data retrieved also usable as
> ODC-BY by any member of the Web public?
>
> Yes it is, and at this stage it is only available from within a html page.

The "it" I was referring to was the API. Roy is telling me that people 
should use the API, as if that is an obvious option that I am 
overlooking. I am asking if the general web public can use the API to 
get this data. I believe that should be a yes/no question/answer.

kc

>
> This experiment is the first step in a process to make linked data about
> WorldCat resources available.  As it will evolve over time other areas such
> as API access, content-negotiation, search & other query methods,
> additional RDF data vocabularies, etc., etc., will be considered in concert
> with community feedback (such as this thread) as to the way forward.
>
> Karen I know you are eager to work with and demonstrate the benefits of
> this way of publishing data.  But these things take time and effort, so
> please be a little patient, and keep firing off these use cases and issues
> they are all valuable input.
>
> ~Richard.
>
>>
>> kc
>>
>>
>>   Roy
>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Kevin Ford <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The use case clarifies perfectly.
>>>>
>>>> Totally feasible.  Well, I should say "totally feasible" with the caveat
>>>> that I've never used the Worldcat Search API.  Not letting that stop me,
>>>> so
>>>> long as it is what I imagine it is, then a developer should be able to
>>>> perform a search, retrieve the response, and, by integrating one of the
>>>> tools advertised on the schema.org website into his/her code, then
>>>> retrieve
>>>> the microdata for each resource returned from the search (and save it as
>>>> RDF
>>>> or whatever).
>>>>
>>>> If someone has created something like this, do speak up.
>>>>
>>>> Yours,
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 07/10/2012 04:48 PM, Karen Coyle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Kevin, if you misunderstand then I undoubtedly haven't been clear (let's
>>>>> at least share the confusion :-)). Here's the use case:
>>>>>
>>>>> PersonA wants to create a comprehensive bibliography of works by
>>>>> AuthorB. The goal is to do a search on AuthorB in WorldCat and extract
>>>>> the RDFa data from those pages in order to populate the bibliography.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apart from all of the issues of getting a perfect match on authors and
>>>>> of manifestation duplicates (there would need to be editing of the
>>>>> results after retrieval at the user's end), how feasible is this? Assume
>>>>> that the author is prolific enough that one wouldn't want to look up all
>>>>> of the records by hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> kc
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/10/12 1:43 PM, Kevin Ford wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As for someone who might want to do this programmatically, he/she
>>>>>> should take a look at the "Programming languages" section of the
>>>>>> second link I sent along:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://schema.rdfs.org/tools.**html<http://schema.rdfs.org/tools.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There one can find Ruby, Python, and Java extractors and parsers
>>>>>> capable of outputting RDF.  A developer can take one of these and
>>>>>> programmatically get at the data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apologies if I am misunderstanding your intent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 07/10/2012 04:34 PM, Karen Coyle wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Kevin! And Richard!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm thinking we need a good web site with links to tools. I had
>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>> been introduced to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2012/pyRdfa/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> where you can past a URI and get ttl or rdf/xml. These are all good
>>>>>>> resources. But what about someone who wants to do this
>>>>>>> programmatically,
>>>>>>> not through a web site? Richard's message indicates that this isn't
>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>> available, so perhaps we should be gathering use cases to support the
>>>>>>> need? And have a place to post various solutions, even ones that are
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> OCLC-specific? (Because I am hoping that the use of microformats will
>>>>>>> increase in general.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> kc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/10/12 12:12 PM, Kevin Ford wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is there an open search to get one to the desired records in the
>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> place?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- I'm not certain this will fully address your question, but try
>>>>>>>> these two sites:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Website: http://www.google.com/**webmasters/tools/richsnippets<http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/richsnippets>
>>>>>>>> Example: http://tinyurl.com/dx3h5bg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Website: http://linter.structured-data.**org/<http://linter.structured-data.org/>
>>>>>>>> Example: http://tinyurl.com/bmm8bbc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These sites will extract the data, but I don't think you get your
>>>>>>>> choice of serialization.  The data are extracted and displayed on the
>>>>>>>> resulting page in the HTML, but at least you can *see* the data.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Additionally, there are a number of "tools" to help with microdata
>>>>>>>> extraction here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://schema.rdfs.org/tools.**html<http://schema.rdfs.org/tools.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some of these will allow you to output specific (RDF) serializations.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 07/10/2012 02:42 PM, Karen Coyle wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have demonstrated the schema.org/RDFa microdata in the WC
>>>>>>>>> database to
>>>>>>>>> various folks and the question always is: how do I get access to
>>>>>>>>> this?
>>>>>>>>> (The only source I have is the Facebook API, me being a "user"
>>>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>>>> than a "maker".) The microdata is CC-BY once you get a Worldcat
>>>>>>>>> URI, but
>>>>>>>>> is there an open search to get one to the desired records in the
>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>> place? I'm poorly-versed in WC APIs so I'm hoping others have a
>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>> grasp.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @rjw: the OCLC website does a thorough job of hiding email
>>>>>>>>> addresses or
>>>>>>>>> I would have asked this directly. Then again, a discussion here
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> have added value.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> kc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>> --
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