DIALOG was still being taught at the library school I attended in
2008-2011, and from what I hear still remains.

+1 on the comment about this awesome survey class.

Doreva Belfiore, MSLIS
Temple University Libraries
Philadelphia, PA

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Bohyun Kim <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Amen to this! I suspect DIALOG is still being taught to believe it or
> not...
>
>
> "By the way, this looks like an awesome survey class. The headaches it
> would have saved me if someone had covered this stuff 10 years ago when I
> was in school, instead of teaching me how to search DIALOG!"
>
>
>
> ---
> Bohyun Kim, MA, MSLIS
> Digital Access Librarian
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> ________________________________________
> From: Code for Libraries [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Joseph
> Montibello [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 10:56 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Recommendations for a teaching OPAC?
>
> Hi,
>
> When you talk about the OPAC, do you want them to be working with a full
> ILS or really just the front-end piece? If it's just the patron-facing
> search, you could probably do worse than to install Blacklight.  It
> probably doesn't really meet the "simple" criteria - there's a lot more to
> it than I could talk about.  But getting it out of the box, turned on, and
> searching against a few records is something that you and students could
> probably manage. I've got a year of unix/ssh/command line experience and
> with a bit of mucking about, googling, and asking for help I was able to
> get a local (non-production) instance up and running, so it's definitely
> easy enough.
>
> By the way, this looks like an awesome survey class. The headaches it
> would have saved me if someone had covered this stuff 10 years ago when I
> was in school, instead of teaching me how to search DIALOG!
>
> Joe Montibello, MLIS
> Library Systems Manager
> Dartmouth College Library
> 603.646.9394
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/2/12 1:54 PM, "David E Mussulman" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >I teach an intro to IT survey class for the LIS school at Illinois. The
> >one-major-topic-a-week syllabus doesn't really give us time to deep dive
> >into IT topics, but it lets us explore them and give contextual
> >understanding to the building block pieces. Ideally, every topic has
> >some sort of hands-on exercise that gives real life experience with the
> >concepts/technologies. The exercises are usually independent, but I've
> >been kicking around the idea of using a simple OSS OPAC to teach
> >different elements of the class as a semester-long big cascading lesson.
> >Examples:
> >
> >Lesson: Linux, ssh and the command shell
> >Exercise: Installing Ubuntu, getting comfortable with that environment
> >
> >Lesson: OSS and software ecosystems
> >Exercise: Get a LAMP stack setup on the OS, install the OPAC
> >
> >Lesson: Interfaces, usability, accessibility
> >Exercise: Use the OPAC, populate it with some data, assess its usability
> >
> >Lesson: HTML/CSS
> >Exercise: Use CSS to skin the OPAC, customize the HTML for your "site"
> >
> >Lesson: Data management, search, IR
> >Exercise: See if we can peak under the hood about how the OPAC's search
> >works
> >
> >Lesson: Interfaces to data: databases, XML, SQL
> >Exercise: Use the OPAC as an living example to work with those interfaces
> >
> >Lesson: Cloud computing, 2.0/social network integration
> >Exercise: Not sure yet...
> >
> >This idea primarily came from trying to get some simple XML/SQL
> >exercises that didn't suck (the setup for these environments is almost
> >as involved as any exercises itself), and the fact the previous classes
> >really liked dissecting the nextgen catalogs we've explored from a
> >software selection and 2.0 integration perspective.
> >
> >But here's the catch, and this is why I need your experience, Code4Lib.
> >I'm not an OPAC admin, and have no experience running or hacking them.
> >I'm looking for recommendations for software that would help me with the
> >goals above, without being too difficult or overwhelming for the
> >students or me. :) It doesn't have to be a good/complete OPAC,
> >necessarily -- just a teaching tool to give experience with the lessons
> >above.
> >
> >Should I be looking at koha and evergreen and the big ones, or are there
> >small projects that you're aware of that might be better? My preference
> >would be MySQL and PHP, but as long as the supplemental tools and
> >documentation are good, I'm flexible. For example, if there are tools as
> >good as phpmyadmin to browse postgresql, I don't think it really
> >matters. I'm willing to sacrifice "good" for "simple and transparent". I
> >don't think Rails is a good place to go with this because I don't want
> >to teach MVC/Rails. (Maybe I'm wrong?)
> >
> >Oh, and I'd also like a small project with great documentation, but I've
> >been around OSS long enough to know that's a diamond in the rough.
> >Sadly, the reality is (for most of these exercises) if the project
> >documentation is lacking, I'll have to write that as well.
> >
> >What are your thoughts on this endeavor? Any recommendations? Thanks!
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >PS. This is not a job ad posting. ;)
> >
>