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CODE4LIB  September 2012

CODE4LIB September 2012

Subject:

Spell-check spelling suggestions [was: U of Baltimore, Final Usability Report, link resolvers -- MIA?]

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"Doran, Michael D" <[log in to unmask]>

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Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 6 Sep 2012 09:02:15 -0500

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> Basically, the crux of it is, as long as spelling suggestions are
> based on standard dictionaries and not built /on the actual terms and
> phrases in the collection/ it's going to basically be a worthless
> feature.

For one library's approach see:

"Create a Spell Check Dictionary"
http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/dictionary/

As you can see, there is no lack of issues to confront doing it that way, too.

-- Michael

# Michael Doran, Systems Librarian
# University of Texas at Arlington
# 817-272-5326 office
# 817-688-1926 mobile
# [log in to unmask]
# http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Ross Singer
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 8:37 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] U of Baltimore, Final Usability Report, link
> resolvers -- MIA?
> 
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Cindy Harper <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > I was going to comment that some of the Encore shortcomings mentioned
> in
> > the PDf do seem to be addressed in current Encore versions, although
> some
> > of these issues have to be addressed - for instance, there is a
> > spell-check, but it can give some surprising suggestions, though
> > suggestions do clue the user in to the fact that they might have a
> > misspelling/typo.
> 
> I wrote about the woeful state of "spelling suggestions" a couple of
> years ago (among a lot of other things):
> 
> http://www.inthelibrarywiththeleadpipe.org/2009/were-gonna-geek-this-
> mother-out/
> 
> (you can skip on down to the "In the Absence of Suggestion, There is
> Always Search..." - it's pretty TL;DR-worthy)
> 
> Basically, the crux of it is, as long as spelling suggestions are
> based on standard dictionaries and not built /on the actual terms and
> phrases in the collection/ it's going to basically be a worthless
> feature.
> 
> I do note there, though, that BiblioCommons apparently must build
> their dictionaries on the metadata in the system.
> 
> -Ross.
> 
> >
> > III's reaction to studies that report that users ignore the right-side
> > panel of search options was to provide a skin that has only two columns
> -
> > the facets on the left, and the search results on the middle-to-right.
> > This pushes important facets like the tag cloud very far down the page,
> and
> > causes a lot of scrolling, so I don't like this skin much.
> >
> > I recently asked a question on the encore users' list about how the tag
> > cloud could be improved - currently it suggests the most common
> subfield a
> > of the subject headings.  I would think it should include the general,
> > chronological, geographical subdivisions - subfields x,y,z.  For
> instance,
> > it doesn't provide good suggestions for improving the search "civil
> war"
> > without these. A chronological subdivision would help a lot there.  But
> > then again, I haven't seen a prototype of how many relevant
> subdivisions
> > this would result in - would the subdivisions drown out the main
> headings
> > in the tag cloud?
> >
> > Cindy Harper, Systems Librarian
> > Colgate University Libraries
> > [log in to unmask]
> > 315-228-7363
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Jonathan LeBreton
> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> >
> >> Lucy Holman, Director of the U Baltimore Library, and a former
> colleague
> >> of mine at UMBC,  got back to me about this.  Her reply puts this
> >> particular document into context.   It is an interesting reminder that
> not
> >> everything you find on the web is as it seems, and it certainly is not
> >> necessarily the final word.   We gotta go buy the book!
> >> Lucy is off-list, but asked me to post this on her behalf.
> >> Her contact information is below, though....
> >>
> >> Very interesting discussion This issue of what is right and feasible
> in
> >> discovery services and how to configure it is important stuff for many
> of
> >> our libraries and we should be able to build on the findings and
> >> experiences of others rather than re-inventing the wheel locally....
> (We
> >> use Summon)
> >>
> >> - Jonathan LeBreton
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------  begin Lucy's explanation  --------------
> >>
> >> The full study and analysis are included in Chapter 14 of a new book,
> >> Planning and Implementing Resource Discovery Tools in Academic
> Libraries,
> >> Mary P. Popp and Diane Dallis (Eds).
> >>
> >> The project was part of a graduate Research Methods course in the
> >> University of Baltimore's MS in Interaction Design and Information
> >> Architecture program.  Originally groups within the course conducted
> >> task-based usability tests on EDS, Primo, Summon and Encore.
> >>  Unfortunately, the test environment of Encore led to many usability
> issues
> >> that we believed were more a result of the test environment than the
> >> product itself; therefore we did not report on Encore in the final
> >> analysis.  The study (and chapter) does offers findings on the other
> three
> >> discovery tools.
> >>
> >> There were six student groups in the course; each group studied two
> tools
> >> with the same user population (undergrad, graduate and faculty) so
> that
> >> each tool was compared against the other three with each user
> population
> >> overall.  The .pdf that you found was the final report of one of those
> six
> >> groups, so it only addresses two of the four tools.  The chapter is
> the
> >> only document that pulls the six portions of the study together.
> >>
> >> I would be happy to discuss this with any of you individually if you
> need
> >> more information.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your interest in the study.
> >>
> >>
> >> Lucy Holman, DCD
> >> Director, Langsdale Library
> >> University of Baltimore
> >> 1420 Maryland Avenue
> >> Baltimore, MD  21201
> >> 410-837-4333
> >>
> >> -------------------------  end insert --------------------
> >>
> >> Jonathan LeBreton
> >> Sr. Associate University Librarian
> >> Temple University Libraries
> >> Paley M138,  1210 Polett Walk, Philadelphia PA 19122
> >> voice: 215-204-8231
> >> fax: 215-204-5201
> >> mobile: 215-284-5070
> >> email:  [log in to unmask]
> >> email:  [log in to unmask]
> >>
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of
> >> > karim boughida
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:09 PM
> >> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] U of Baltimore, Final Usability Report, link
> >> resolvers --
> >> > MIA?
> >> >
> >> > Hi Tom,
> >> > Top players are EDS, Primo and Summon....the only reason I see
> encore in
> >> the
> >> > mix is if you have other III products which is not the case of Ubalt
> >> library. They
> >> > have now worldcat? Encore vs Summon is an easy win for summon.
> >> >
> >> > Let's wait for Jonathan LeBreton (Thanks BTW).
> >> >
> >> > Karim Boughida
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Tom Pasley <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >> > > Yes, I'm curious to know too! Due to database/resource matching or
> >> > > coverage perhaps (anyone's guess).
> >> > >
> >> > > Tom
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 7:50 AM, karim boughida
> <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi All,
> >> > >> Initially EDS, Primo, Summon, and Encore were considered but only
> >> > >> Encore and Summon were tested. Do we know why?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks
> >> > >> Karim Boughida
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Jonathan Rochkind
> <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >> > Hi helpful code4lib community, at one point there was a report
> >> online at:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> http://student-
> iat.ubalt.edu/students/kerber_n/idia642/Final_Usabilit
> >> > >> y_Report.pdf
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > David Walker tells me the report at that location included
> findings
> >> > >> > about SFX and/or other link resolvers.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I'm really interested in reading it. But it's gone from that
> >> > >> > location,
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> > I'm not sure if it's somewhere else (I don't have a
> title/author to
> >> > >> search
> >> > >> > for other than that URL, which is not in google cache or
> internet
> >> > >> archive).
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Is anyone reading this familiar with the report? Perhaps one of
> the
> >> > >> authors
> >> > >> > is reading this, or someone reading it knows one of the authors
> and
> >> > >> > can
> >> > >> be
> >> > >> > put me in touch?  Or knows someone likely in the relevant dept
> at
> >> > >> > ubalt
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> > can be put me in touch? Or has any other information about this
> >> > >> > report or ways to get it?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Thanks!
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Jonathan
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Karim B Boughida
> >> > >> [log in to unmask]
> >> > >> [log in to unmask]
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Karim B Boughida
> >> > [log in to unmask]
> >> > [log in to unmask]
> >>

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