Also, I've seen a number of reports over the last few years of women who were harassed at predominately-male tech conferences. Taken together, they paint a picture of men (particularly drunken men) creating an atmosphere that makes a lot of people feel excluded and worry about being harassed or worse. So I think a positive statement of values, and the general raising of consciousness of these issues, is a good thing.
Esme Cowles <[log in to unmask]>
"Men feared witches and burnt women."
-- Louis Brandeis, Whitney v. California, concurring
On 11/26/2012, at 7:47 PM, Michael J. Giarlo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Kyle,
> IMO, this is less an instrument to keep people playing nice and more an
> instrument to point to in the event that we have to take action against an
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Kyle Banerjee <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Jon Stroop <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> It's sad that we have to address this formally (as formal as c4l gets
>>> anyway), but that's reality, so yes, bess++ indeed, and mjgiarlo++,
>>> anarchivist++ for the quick assist.
>>> To that end, and as a show of (positive) force--not to mention how cool
>>> our community is--I think it might be neat if we could find a way to make
>>> whatever winds up being drafted something we can sign; i.e. attach our
>>> personal names
>> Diversity and inclusiveness is a state of mind, and our individual and
>> collective actions exert that force than any policy or pledge ever could.
>> I'm hoping that things can be handled with the minimum formality necessary
>> and that if something needs to be fixed, people can just talk about it so
>> things can be made right. If we need a policy, I'm all for it. But it's
>> truly a sad day if policy rather than just being motivated to do the right
>> thing is what's keeping people playing nice.