This just sounds like you don't care about counting the gender variant
members of the community.


On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Rosalyn Metz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I'm going to leave it as is for now, let's think of this as a first draft.
> As I think I said to the list (not sure because lots of people have
> contacted me directly) I'd hate to change it now because that'd just make
> the first half of the answers useless/inconsistent/different than the rest.
>
> Next time around we can add in an other option. Sound good?
> On Nov 27, 2012 4:22 PM, "Gabriel Farrell" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Great first step, Rosalyn. Could we include an "other" for those in the
> > community that may not be covered by the gender binary?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm pretty sure I said "if you're unsure" which means maybe you've
> never
> > > thought about it or not really clear as to what 'part of the community'
> > > means.
> > >
> > > I mean, I'm not trying to annex the unsuspecting or anything.
> > >
> > > -Ross.
> > >
> > > On Nov 27, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Wilhelmina Randtke <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Um, no.  Anyone who takes the survey has to have gotten the incoming
> > link
> > > > from somewhere.  This listserv is the most likely source.  So, by
> your
> > > > definition almost anyone with the URL for the survey is a community
> > > > member.
> > > >
> > > > Self-defining as part of the community is about how people see their
> > > role.
> > > > Otherwise the survey could just list all those things you said and
> ask
> > if
> > > > the person did them.
> > > >
> > > > -Wilhelmina Randtke
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> To second Rosy's point, if you are unsure if you are 'part of the
> > > >> community' and you can answer yes to any of the following questions,
> > you
> > > >> absolutely can say 'yes' in the survey:
> > > >>
> > > >> You are on the CODE4LIB mailing list
> > > >> You have attended a Code4Lib conference
> > > >> You have submitted to a CfP to a Code4Lib conference
> > > >> You tried to attend a Code4Lib conference but didn't register in
> time
> > > >> You have a registered account on code4lib.org
> > > >> You have a registered account on wiki.code4lib.org
> > > >> You have submitted to or read the Code4lib journal
> > > >> You follow planet.code4lib.org
> > > >> You have been in the #code4lib IRC channel
> > > >>
> > > >> What I'm saying is that Code4Lib's "community" takes a lot of forms,
> > > don't
> > > >> feel you need to be a regular in the IRC channel or something.
> > > >>
> > > >> -Ross.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Nov 27, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Rosalyn Metz <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> To our dear dear lurking friends,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> We would also like you to take the survey.  I put the "Do you
> > consider
> > > >>> yourself a part of the Code4Lib community." question in the survey
> > > >> because
> > > >>> I  wanted to make sure that people that were part of Code4Lib were
> > > >>> separated from the random people that might take the survey -- like
> > oh
> > > >> say
> > > >>> my mom (I'm not kidding, she would take the survey if she saw it).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> But then I was reminded that I once thought I wasn't part of the
> > > >> community.
> > > >>> I read the listserv all the time and then I decided to start a
> blog.
> > >  And
> > > >>> then I went to a conference where I gave a lightning talk.  And now
> > > >> Michael
> > > >>> Klein is yelling at me to come back to the conference and IRC chat
> > > room.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> So now my hope for that question is that folks like you -- who
> think
> > > they
> > > >>> are just a lurker -- will take the survey and respond no to the
> first
> > > >>> question.  Then maybe we can figure out a way to turn some of those
> > nos
> > > >> to
> > > >>> yeses.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> :)
> > > >>> A former lurker
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Rosalyn Metz <
> [log in to unmask]
> > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Ok Folks,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I'm starting off small.  Let's do a quick survey of the community
> > and
> > > >> see
> > > >>>> what the gender breakdown is.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Survey Link: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/68G5TBG
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> It should take 1 minute to fill out.  It closes at the end of the
> > day
> > > >>>> Friday (midnight).  I'll share the results here on Monday when
> we're
> > > all
> > > >>>> back to work and can have a lively discussion about what they
> mean.
> > > >> Expect
> > > >>>> a chart (I like charts in addition to surveys).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Rosalyn
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> P.S. can someone share on the twitters?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>