On 11/29/2012 4:19 PM, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote:
>   departments in kinda interesting ways. There now seems to be things like
> "Metadata" or "Systems" groups that are distinct from "Digital Repository"
> or "Applications" groups. Catalogers and the people who work on the ILS are
> often completely segregated from the people who work on the new flashy
> grant-funded projects.

Yes, this isn't new, and it is a problem.

The former, it kinda seems to me, tends to have more
> women members while the latter is often lacking. Code4Lib draws mostly from
> people working in these new-ish groups,

Code4Lib didn't used to, when I attended the second code4lib conf, the 
vast majority of the presentations and presenters were NOT about 
grant-funded work or "digital repository" work, and the majority of 
people I met at Code4Lib were not working on such things.

I miss that. Code4Lib was in fact the only place I knew of for people 
working on traditional library use cases, not on grant-funded projects, 
trying to innovate with technology and keep libraries relevant.