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Re: Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels

From:

Shaun Ellis <[log in to unmask]>

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Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:40:30 -0500

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Yes, in fact the Internet in general is a place people go to share all 
sorts of things great and terrible, but we shouldn't throw the baby out 
with the bathwater in my opinion.

The nice thing about Reddit is that you can control your particular 
subreddit through culture, a code of conduct, and moderation.  Are you a 
Redditor?  Would you like to be a r/Code4Lib moderator to help address 
the issues you mention?  Even if you're not a moderator, you still have 
the power to help direct and focus the conversation through up/down 
votes and comments in a way that is better than a listserv firehose.

A final note is that Reddit's source code is up on github.  I'm not a 
python expert, but it could probably be set up in isolation from reddit 
if that's seen as a problem.  It could use whatever authentication the 
C4L wiki uses.  I has a restful API as well, so we could integrate it 
into the listserv as Ed Summers did with the jobs site.

-Shaun

On 11/30/12 1:19 PM, Wilhelmina Randtke wrote:
> Could we take a moment to stop and Google "sexist github" then stop and
> Google "sexist reddit".
>
>   "Sexist github" will bring up discussions on how to deal with sexism.  It
> won't bring up pages and reams of blatant examples of sexism.
>
> "Sexist reddit" will bring up a lot of really blatant sexism and sexual
> imagery directed at women.  Even if you are in a subthread that isn't like
> that, the general community is probably not what you should be aiming for.
> If you shouldn't be aiming for it, then don't.
>
> -Wilhelmina Randtke
>
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Aaron Collier <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>> +1 Thanks for getting the sub-reddit started. I'm happy to see that as I
>> agree with the format of discussion. I find it much easier to archive full
>> discussions that I find there vs. the jumble of a multitude of email
>> messages.
>>
>>
>>
>> Aaron Collier
>> Library Academic Systems Analyst
>> California State University, Fresno - Henry Madden Library
>> 559.278.2945
>> [log in to unmask]
>> http://www.csufresno.edu/library
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Shaun Ellis" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:51:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Proliferation of Code4Lib Channels
>>
>> Mark and Karen, yes, the DIY and take-initiative ethos of Code4Lib leads
>> to a lot of channels. I think this is a good thing as each has its
>> strengths. But it creates chaos without more clarity on what platforms
>> are best for certain types of communication?
>>
>> We have similar issues when it comes to our own internal documentation
>> attempts at Princeton. Wiki? Git? Git Wiki? IRC? Blogosphere? Reddit?
>> Listserv? Twitter? Why should I use any of them?!?
>>
>> I will say that I like Reddit for potentially controversial or
>> philosophical discussions. It's built to keep the conversation on track
>> and reward the most insightful/best comments with more visibility.
>>
>> So, anyway, I've posted this discussion on the subreddit:
>>
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/code4lib/comments/1426fn/the_diy_and_takeinitiative_ethos_of_code4lib/
>>
>> I also added a post on mentorship to the subreddit, since I'm
>> particularly interested in that. Karen, while I think your comments on
>> "promotion" and "giving credit" are important, I'm not sure how they are
>> related to mentorship. Would love to hear more about that in the subreddit.
>>
>> -Shaun
>>
>> On 11/30/12 12:30 PM, Mark A. Matienzo wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> Wow. We could not have gotten a better follow-up to our long thread
>> about
>>>> coders and non-coders.
>>>>
>>>> I don't git. I've used it to read code, but never contributed. I even
>>>> downloaded a gui with a cute icon that is supposed to make it easy, and
>> it
>>>> still is going to take some learning.
>>>>
>>>> So I'm afraid that it either needs to be on a different platform for
>>>> editing, OR someone (you know, the famed "someone") is going to have to
>> do
>>>> updates for us non-gitters.
>>>
>>> Karen, I've added instructions about how to add contributions without
>>> knowing Git to the README file:
>>> https://github.com/code4lib/antiharassment-policy/blob/master/README.md
>>>
>>> If you'd like, I'm happy to have feedback as to changes here. A small
>>> handful of people have also asked if we could move this to another
>>> platform such as the Code4lib wiki. I'd be happy to get feedback if
>>> that would be a preferable option.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Shaun D. Ellis
>> Digital Library Interface Developer
>> Firestone Library, Princeton University
>> voice: 609.258.1698 | [log in to unmask]
>>

-- 
Shaun D. Ellis
Digital Library Interface Developer
Firestone Library, Princeton University
voice: 609.258.1698 | [log in to unmask]

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