In terms of structure, drupalladder.org and Dreamwidth (
http://wiki.dwscoalition.org/notes/Dev_Getting_Started ) are good models
for how to scaffold the process for new developers, and to help new
community members regardless of skill level find places they can contribute
and understand the socially accepted workflow. --ay


On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Rosalyn Metz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hey Shaun,
>
> I was actually thinking about some of this this morning, so I'm happy to
> see there is someone else out there thinking about the same things.
>
> I like the idea of some type of structure to a program, I wonder if maybe
> we could combine Karen's idea of training with a mentorship program.
>
> I also like your idea of projects being a way to recruit future volunteers,
> both because it helps us know where to go to find people, but also because
> it would help newbies figure out what's out there in the Code4Lib world (it
> took me forever to realize that the website was something i needed a
> password to in order to vote).
>
> If you already started a wiki page point me to it, I'm happy to start
> fleshing out ideas!
>
> Rosalyn
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Shaun Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Rosalyn,
> > I agree that we should encourage women to step up and mentor other women
> > at Code4Lib.  I also see the pairing of women mentors with women mentees
> as
> > fitting into an overall mentorship program, and I would be interested in
> > collaborating with you and others to help frame it out.
> >
> > I don't think it needs to be very formal, but it would be important to
> > give some structure to it so folks know what they are getting into, how
> to
> > make sure everyone meets their goals, and measure the effectiveness of
> the
> > program in terms of meeting code4lib goals (such as increasing diversity,
> > getting more volunteer help, etc.).  We can start a wikipage to start to
> > flesh this out, unless folks would like to use a different forum.
> >
> > In addition to the RailsBridge workshop, I was thinking that Code4Lib
> > community projects would be a great way to both learn and recruit future
> > volunteers.  I was also trying to find the list of maintenance projects
> > wiki page that someone (Jonathan?) was referring to as being top
> priorities
> > for Code4Lib.  Is this it?
> > http://wiki.code4lib.org/**index.php/AdminToDo<
> http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/AdminToDo>
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > -Shaun
> >
> > On 12/5/12 3:57 PM, Rosalyn Metz wrote:
> >
> >> So rather than focusing on statistics and math, I'd like to steer the
> >> conversation in a different direction.  Let's say Ross is right and more
> >> women chose to take the survey based on the topic -- maybe that's a way
> to
> >> get women involved in Code4Lib.
> >>
> >> Karen had the idea of creating a women Code4Lib IRC channel, maybe that
> >> can
> >> be a place to start.  Or maybe we have a few women that are willing to
> >> step
> >> up and be a Code4Lib mentor to other women -- similar to what we do for
> >> the
> >> new member event at the conference.  I'd even be willing to step up and
> >> organize that if people like the idea.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:00 PM, stuart yeates <[log in to unmask]
> >**
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>  On 06/12/12 09:05, Sara Amato wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  I'd been staying out of this discussion, but the thought occurs to me
> >>>> that someone with access to the list of subscribers might run that
> >>>> against
> >>>> a list of traditional boy/girl names, and be able to make some
> guesses….
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> That idea runs into problems both with non-western names (there is more
> >>> than one kind of diversity) and those people whose experience of gender
> >>> in
> >>> the workplace have led them to use non-gender-specific identifiers.
> >>>
> >>> cheers
> >>> stuart
> >>> --
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> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> > --
> > Shaun D. Ellis
> > Digital Library Interface Developer
> > Firestone Library, Princeton University
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> >
>