This ... saddens me.

We can have evermore threads which hit the daily post limit about the
community and how everyone feels. But a thread about programming language
strength/weakness has to be shut down.

I think it's time to change the name. I'm completely serious.

/dev




On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Ethan Gruber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Look, I'm sure we can list the many ways different languages fail to meet
> our expectations, but is this really a constructive line of conversation?
>
> -1
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Justin Coyne
> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
> > I did misspeak a bit.  You can override static methods in Java.  My major
> > issue is that there is no "getClass()" within a static method, so when
> the
> > static method is being run in the context of the inheriting class it is
> > unaware of its own run context.
> >
> > For example: I want the output to be "Hi from bar", but it's "Hi from
> foo":
> >
> > class Foo {
> >   public static void sayHello() {
> >     hi();
> >   }
> >   public static void hi() {
> >     System.out.println("Hi from foo");
> >   }
> > }
> >
> > class Bar extends Foo {
> >
> >   public static void hi() {
> >     System.out.println("Hi from bar");
> >   }
> > }
> >
> > class Test {
> >   public static void main(String [ ] args) {
> >     Bar.sayHello();
> >   }
> > }
> >
> >
> > -Justin
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Eric Hellman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > OK, pedant, tell us why you think methods that can be over-ridden are
> > > static.
> > > Also, tell us why you think classes in Java are not instances of
> > > java.lang.Class
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 18, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Justin Coyne <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > To be pedantic, Ruby and JavaScript are more Object Oriented than
> Java
> > > > because they don't have primitives and (in Ruby's case) because
> classes
> > > are
> > > > themselves objects.   Unlike Java, both Python and Ruby can properly
> > > > override of static methods on sub-classes. The Java language made
> many
> > > > compromises as it was designed as a bridge to Object Oriented
> > programming
> > > > for programmers who were used to writing C and C++.
> > > >
> > > > -Justin
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



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