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> On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Joshua Welker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> I think I have the information I need at this point, so this would be a good
> time to let this thread die before it turns into what I tried to avoid in
> the first place.
>
> Josh Welker
> Information Technology Librarian
> James C. Kirkpatrick Library
> University of Central Missouri
> Warrensburg, MO 64093
> JCKL 2260
> 660.543.8022
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Matthew Sherman
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:25 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby
>
> Ok folks, we have veered into nonconstructive territory. How about we come
> back to the original question and help this person figure out what they need
> to about Ruby and Python so they can do well with what they want to work on.
>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Ethan Gruber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> All languages other than assembly are boutique and must be eliminated
>> like the cancer that they are.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What would you consider a "boutique" language? What isn't?
>>>
>>> -Ross.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Rich Wenger <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The proliferation of boutique "languages" is a cancer on our community.
>>>> Each one is a YAP (Yet Another Priesthood), and little else. The
>>>> world does not need five slightly varying syntaxes for a substring
>>>> function.
>>> If I
>>>> had switched languages every time the web community "recommended"
>>>> it, I would have rewritten a mountain of apps at least twice in the
>>>> past five years. What's next, a separate language to put periods
>>>> at the end of sentences? Just my $.02. That is all.
>>>>
>>>> Rich Wenger
>>>> E-Resource Systems Manager, MIT Libraries [log in to unmask]
>>>> 617-253-0035
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>>>> Joshua Welker
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:56 AM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby
>>>>
>>>> I am already a big user of PHP for web apps, but PHP does not make a
>>>> fantastic scripting language in my experience.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Welker
>>>> Information Technology Librarian
>>>> James C. Kirkpatrick Library
>>>> University of Central Missouri
>>>> Warrensburg, MO 64093
>>>> JCKL 2260
>>>> 660.543.8022
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>>>> Riley Childs
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:18 AM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Python and Ruby
>>>>
>>>> No mention of PHP?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 30, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Kurt Nordstrom <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Whoohoo, late to the party!
>>>>>
>>>>> I like Python because I learned it first, and I haven't had a need to
>>>>> explore Ruby yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did briefly foray into learning Ruby in order to try to learn
>>>>> Rails,
>>>>> and I actually found that my background in Python sort of gave me
>>>>> brain-jam for learning Ruby, because the languages were so close
>>>>> together, but just different in some ways. So my mind would be 'oh,
>>>>> so
>>>>> it's just <insert Python idiom here> but then, it's not. If I tackle
>>>>> Ruby again, I will definitely try to 'empty my cup' first.
>>>>>
>>>>> -K
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Marc Chantreux <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry comming late with it but:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:43:33AM -0500, Joshua Welker wrote:
>>>>>>> Not intending to start a language flame war/holy war here, but in
>>>>>>> the library coding community, is there a particular reason to use
>>>>>>> Ruby over Python or vice-versa?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it the only choices you have? Because I'd personnally advice none
>>>>>> of them
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tested both of them before stucking to Perl just because
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * it is very pleasant when it come to explore and modify
>>>>>> datastructures and strings (which library things are).
>>>>>> * the ecosystem is briliant: perl comes with lot of libraries and
>>>>>> tools with a quality i haven't found in other languages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, perl is not perfect and i really would like to use a
>>>>>> modern emerging compiled language like go, rust, haskell or even
>>>>>> something on the jvm (like clojure or the emerging perl6) but all of
>>>>>> them miss libraries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Marc Chantreux
>>>>>> Université de Strasbourg, Direction Informatique
>>>>>> 14 Rue René Descartes,
>>>>>> 67084 STRASBOURG CEDEX
>>>>>> ☎: 03.68.85.57.40
>>>>>> http://unistra.fr
>>>>>> "Don't believe everything you read on the Internet"
>>>>>> -- Abraham Lincoln
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.blar.net/kurt/blog/
>>>
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