On 9/18/13 6:25 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote:
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> and without disagreeing with you, I would point out that if you say that a given type of resource can have at most one dct:title (which is easy to declare using OWL), and then apply that ontology to an instance that features a resource of that type with two dct:titles, you're going to get back useful information from the operation of your reasoner. An inconsistency in your claims about the world will become apparent. I now realize I should have been using the word "consistency" and not "validity".
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> I suppose what I really want to know, if you're willing to keep "playing reporter" on the workshop you attended, is whether there was an understanding present that people are using OWL in this way, and that it's useful in this way (far more useful than writing and maintaining lots and lots and lots of SPARQL) and that this is a use case for ontology languages.
The workshop was expressly on validation of data. No one reported using
"reasoners" to do validation, and one speaker talked about relying on
OWL for their validation rules (but admitted that it was all in their
closed world and was a bit apologetic about it). I don't have experience
with reasoners, but one of the issues for validation using SPARQL is
getting back specific information about what precise part of the query
returned "false". I suspect that reasoners aren't good at returning such
information, since that is not their purpose. I don't believe that they
operate on a T/F basis, but now I'll start looking into them.
One thing to remember about OWL is that it affects the semantics of your
classes and properties in the open world. OWL intends to describe truths
about a world of your design. It should affect not only your use of your
data, but EVERYONE's use of your data in the cloud. Yet even you may
have more than one application operating on the data, and those
applications may have different requirements. Also, remember that the
graph grows, so something that may be true at the moment of cataloging,
for example, may not be true when your graph combines with other graphs.
So you may say that there is one and only one main author to a work
title, but that means one and only one URI. If your data combines with
data from another source, and that source has used a different author
URI, then what should happen? Each OWL rule makes a statement about a
supposed reality, yet you may not have much control over that reality.
Fewer rules ("least ontological commitment") means more possibilities
for re-use and re-combining of your data; more rules makes it very hard
for your data to play well in the world graph.
There are cases where OWL *increases* the utility of your properties and
classes, in particular declaring sub-class/sub-property relations. If we
say that RDA:titleProper is a subproperty of dct:title then anyone who
"knows" dct:title can make use of RDA:titleProper. But OWL as a way to
*restrict* the definition of the world should be used with caution.
I would like to see a discussion of what kinds of inferences we would
like to make (or see made) of our data in the open world, and then those
inferences should inform how we would use OWL. Do we want to infer that
every resource has a title? Obviously not, from how this discussion
started. How about that every resource has a known creator? (Not) Do we
want to limit the number of titles or creators of a resource in the
world graph? The number of identities they can have? Does it make sense
to say that a FRBR:Work can have an "adaptationOf" relationship *only*
with another FRBR:Work (when no one except libraries is defining their
resources in terms of FRBR:Work)?
On the other hand, if two resources have the same title and the same
date, are they the same resource? (maybe, maybe not).
Oops. gotta run. I'm going to try to pull all of this together into
something more coherent.
Thanks,
kc
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> On Sep 17, 2013, at 11:00 PM, CODE4LIB automatic digest system wrote:
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>> From: Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: September 17, 2013 12:54:33 PM EDT
>> Subject: Re: Expressing negatives and similar in RDF
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>> Agreed that SPARQL is ugly, and there was discussion at the RDF validation workshop about the need for friendly interfaces that then create the appropriate SPARQL queries in the background. This shouldn't be surprising, since most business systems do not require users to write raw SQL or even anything resembling code - often users fill in a form with data that is turned into code.
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>> But it really is a mistake to see OWL as a constraint language in the sense of validation. An ontology cannot constrain; OWL is solely *descriptive* not *prescriptive.* [1]
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>> Inferencing is very different from validation, and this is an area where the initial RDF documentation was (IMO) quite unclear. The OWL 2 documents are better, but everyone admits that it's still an area of confusion. (In a major act of confession at the DC2013 meeting, Ivan Herman, head of the W3C semantic web work, said that this was a mistake that he himself made for many years. Fortunately, he now helps write the documentation, and it's good that he has that perspective.) In effect, inferencing is the *opposite* of constraining. Inferencing is:
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>> "All men are liars. Socrates is a man. Therefore Socrates is a liar."
>> "Every child has a parent. Johnny is a child. Therefore, Johnny has a parent." (whether you can find one or not is irrelevant)
>> "Every child has two parents. Johnny is a child. Therefore Johnny has two parents. Mary is Johnny's parent." (no contradiction here, we just don't know who the other parent is)
>> "Every child has two parents. Johnny is a child. Therefore Johnny has two parents. Mary is Johnny's parent. Jane is Johnny's parent. Fred is Johnny's parent." Here the reasoner detects a contradiction.
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>> The issue of dct:titles is an interesting example. dct:title takes a literal value. If you create a dct:title with:
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>> X dct:title http://example.com/junk
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>> with OWL rules that is NOT wrong. It simply provides the inference that "http://example.com/junk" is a string - but it can't prevent you from creating that triple, because it only operates on existing data.
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>> If you say that every resource MUST have a dct:title, then if you come across a resource without a dct:title that is NOT wrong. The reasoner would conclude that there is a dct:title somewhere because that's the rule. (This is where the Open World comes in) When data contradicts reasoners, they can't work correctly, but they act on existing data, they do not modify or correct data.
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>> I'm thinking that OWL and constraints would be an ideal training webinar, and I think I know who could do it!
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>> kc
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>> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-owl2-primer-20121211/
>> "OWL 2 is not a schema language for syntax conformance. Unlike XML, OWL 2 does not provide elaborate means to prescribe how a document should be structured syntactically. In particular, there is no way to enforce that a certain piece of information (like the social security number of a person) has to be syntactically present. This should be kept in mind as OWL has some features that a user might misinterpret this way."
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