Hi Andrew,

Not exactly sure what sort of differences you're after...

Do you mean the difference between this:
    http://iipimage.sourceforge.net/documentation/protocol/
(and it's 74 page reference: http://iipimage.sourceforge.net/IIPv105.pdf )

And this:
  http://www-sul.stanford.edu/iiif/image-api/1.1/

?

Rob




On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Andrew Hankinson <
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> So what’s the difference between IIIF and IIP? (the protocol, not the
> server implementation)
>
> -Andrew
>
> On Nov 8, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Jon Stroop <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > It aims to do the same thing...serve big JP2s (and other images) over
> the web, so from that perspective, yes. But, beyond that, time will tell.
> One nice thing about coding against a well-thought-out spec is that are
> lots of implementations from which you can choose[1]--though as far as I
> know Loris is the only one that supports the IIIF syntax natively (maybe
> IIP?). We still have Djatoka floating around in a few places here, but, as
> many people have noted over the years, it takes a lot of shimming to scale
> it up, and, as far as I know, the project has more or less been abandoned.
> >
> > I haven't done too much in the way of benchmarking, but to date don't
> have any reason to think Loris can't perform just as well. The demo I sent
> earlier is working against a very large jp2 with small tiles[1] which means
> a lot of rapid hits on the server, and between that, (a little bit of)
> JMeter and ab testing, and a fair bit of concurrent use from the c4l
> community this afternoon, I feel fairly confident about it being able to
> perform as well as Djatoka in a production environment.
> >
> > By the way, you can page through some other images here:
> http://libimages.princeton.edu/osd-demo/
> >
> > Not much of an answer, I realize, but, as I said, time and usage will
> tell.
> >
> > -Js
> >
> > 1. http://iiif.io/apps-demos.html
> > 2.
> http://libimages.princeton.edu/loris/pudl0052%2F6131707%2F00000001.jp2/info.json
> >
> >
> > On 11/8/13 8:07 PM, Peter Murray wrote:
> >> A clarifying question: is Loris effectively a Python-based replacement
> for the Java-based djatoka [1] server?
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> [1]
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/djatoka/index.php?title=Main_Page
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 8, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Jon Stroop <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> c4l,
> >>> I was reminded earlier this week at DLF (and a few minutes ago by Tom
> >>> and Simeon) that I hadn't ever announced a project I've been working
> for
> >>> the least year or so to this list. I showed an early version in a
> >>> lightning talk at code4libcon last year.
> >>>
> >>> Meet Loris: https://github.com/pulibrary/loris
> >>>
> >>> Loris is a Python based image server that implements the IIIF Image API
> >>> version 1.1 level 2[1].
> >>>
> >>> http://www-sul.stanford.edu/iiif/image-api/1.1/
> >>>
> >>> It can take JP2 (if you make Kakadu available to it), TIFF, or JPEG
> >>> source images, and hand back JPEG, PNG, TIF, and GIF (why not...).
> >>>
> >>> Here's a demo of the server directly: http://goo.gl/8XEmjp
> >>>
> >>> And here's a sample of the server backing OpenSeadragon[2]:
> >>> http://goo.gl/Gks6lR
> >>>
> >>> -Js
> >>>
> >>> 1. http://www-sul.stanford.edu/iiif/image-api/1.1/
> >>> 2. http://openseadragon.github.io/
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jon Stroop
> >>> Digital Initiatives Programmer/Analyst
> >>> Princeton University Library
> >>> [log in to unmask]
> >> --
> >> Peter Murray
> >> Assistant Director, Technology Services Development
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