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Subject:

Re: Lorem Ipsum metadata? Is there such a thing?

From:

"Kevin S. Clarke" <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 9 Dec 2013 23:28:04 -0500

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I was telling Hardy earlier today we needed a metadata ipsum... it would
pull random words from the full-text of the AACR2.

Kevin



On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Brian Zelip <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Not metadata, but still pretty fun - http://meettheipsums.com - some
> curated ipsums.
>
>
> Brian Zelip
>
> ---
> Graduate Assistant
> Scholarly Commons, University Library
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Pottinger, Hardy J. <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Well it's not a web service, but it does make lots of fake metadata for
> > batch loading into DSpace. I will just leave this here:
> >
> > https://github.com/hardyoyo/random_dspace_batch_metadata
> >
> > Thanks for the lead on the Faker gem! This was a fun diversion. I
> > especially like the titles this script mints. :-)
> >
> > A possible improvement would be to randomly reuse author names, so author
> > facets have more than one item. I'll do that if I ever have to test
> author
> > facets.
> >
> > --Hardy
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Dec 9, 2013, at 7:36 PM, "Roy Tennant" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:
> > [log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> > I ask you, would you want to work all day sitting on top of a huge pile
> of
> > radioactive MARC records? I sure wouldn't...
> > Roy
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Bill Dueber <[log in to unmask]<mailto:
> > [log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> > The sad thing is that the Library of Congress spent billions of dollars
> of
> > taxpayer money building a safe storage facility in the stable caves under
> > Dublin, OH, but now no one will let them bury them there.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Roy Tennant <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:
> > [log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> > I can't help wondering what the half-life of a radioactive MARC record
> > is.
> > My guess is it is either really, really short or really, really long. ;-)
> > Roy
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Peter Binkley <[log in to unmask]
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Years ago Bill Moen had a set of "radioactive" MARC records with unique
> > tokens in all fields, to test Z39.50 retrieval. I don't know whether
> > they
> > were ever released anywhere, but I see the specs are here:
> >
> > http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc111015/m1/1/
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > Peter Binkley
> > Digital Initiatives Technology Librarian
> > Information Technology Services
> > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > 2-10K Cameron Library
> > University of Alberta
> > Edmonton, Alberta
> > Canada T6G 2J8
> >
> > phone 780-492-3743
> > fax 780-492-9243
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Joshua Welker <[log in to unmask]<mailto:
> > [log in to unmask]>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I checked out the Eclipse option and was not able to get much use out
> > of
> > it.
> > Maybe someone else will have better luck? It doesn't seem to align
> > very
> > well
> > with a library use case.
> >
> > Josh Welker
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> > Of
> > Ben
> > Companjen
> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 11:14 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Lorem Ipsum metadata? Is there such a thing?
> >
> > Hi Josh,
> >
> > Before you start coding:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17106/how-to-generate-sample-xml-documen
> > ts-from-their-dtd-or-xsd suggests that Eclipse can generate XML from
> > an
> > DTD
> > or XSD file. First try with the EAC XSD shows I need to try other
> > options,
> > but it's promising.
> >
> > (It's still an interesting problem to try to tackle yourself, of
> > course.)
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > On 09-12-13 17:59, "Joshua Welker" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:
> [log in to unmask]>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > It's hard-coded to generate the specific elements. But your way
> > sounds
> > a lot cleaner, so I might try to do that instead :) It will be more
> > difficult initially but much easier once I start implementing other
> > metadata formats.
> >
> > Josh Welker
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> > Behalf
> > Of
> > Ben Companjen
> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:52 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Lorem Ipsum metadata? Is there such a thing?
> >
> > Cool!
> > My first thought on this topic was: give the program an XML schema,
> > and
> > generate possible documents with the correct datatypes etc.
> > (Something
> > like that must exist somewhere, right?) Does it happen to work
> > anything
> > like that, or is it hardcoded to generate these specific elements?
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > On 09-12-13 17:27, "Joshua Welker" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:
> [log in to unmask]>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Challenge accepted.
> >
> > http://library.ucmo.edu/dev/metadata-generator.php
> >
> > Obviously in the prototype phase, but it works. Only MODS is
> > available
> > for now, and you can only select top-level elements (all child
> > elements of the top-level selections will be auto-generated). I
> > will
> > try to expand it to more than just MODS. Admittedly, I know very
> > little about METS, so I will need some assistance if I am going to
> > make
> > one of those.
> >
> > I'll eventually host this somewhere else once it's done, so don't
> > bookmark it.
> >
> > Josh Welker
> > Information Technology Librarian
> > James C. Kirkpatrick Library
> > University of Central Missouri
> > Warrensburg, MO 64093
> > JCKL 2260
> > 660.543.8022
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Kevin S. Clarke
> > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 12:26 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Lorem Ipsum metadata? Is there such a
> > thing?
> >
> > When I first read this, I was imagining not having to give it your
> > metadata but native support for most of our commonly used metadata
> > records... so the interface is: "Give me 100 MODS records" and it
> > spits that out... You could get fancy and say, "Give me X number of
> > METS records that wrap TIFFs and JPGs and that uses MODS, etc."
> > That's not as trivial as hooking into an lorem ipsum machine, but
> > it'd
> > be pretty cool, imho.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Pottinger, Hardy J. <
> > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, I asked this on Google Plus earlier today, but I figured I'd
> > better take this question here: my brain is trying to tell me
> > that
> > there's a service or app that makes "fake" metadata, kind of like
> > "Lorem Ipsum" but you feed it your fields and it gives you
> > nonsense
> > metadata back. But, it looks right enough for testing.
> > Yesterday, I
> > had to make up about 50 rows of fake metadata to test some code
> > that
> > handles paging in a UI, and I had to make it all up by hand. This
> > hurts my soul. Someone please tell me such a service exists, and
> > link me to it, so I never have to do this again. Or else, I may
> > just
> > make such a service, to save us all. But I don't want to go
> > coding
> > some new service if it already exists, because that sort of thing
> > is
> > for chumps.
> >
> >
> > --
> > HARDY POTTINGER <[log in to unmask]<mailto:
> [log in to unmask]>>
> > University of
> > Missouri
> > Library Systems http://lso.umsystem.edu/~pottingerhj/
> > https://MOspace.umsystem.edu/
> > "Making things that are beautiful is real fun." --Lou Reed
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bill Dueber
> > Library Systems Programmer
> > University of Michigan Library
> >
>

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