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CODE4LIB August 2014

Subject:

Re: Library Privacy, RIP (Was: Canvas Fingerprinting by AddThis)

From:

Jason Bengtson <[log in to unmask]>

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Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 15 Aug 2014 17:02:03 -0500

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The system not connected to the internet is more secure. But that border
keeps getting crossed. Stuxnet made the oxygen barrier leap, as have other
malware packages since, through a variety of exploit tactics, once they
managed to get to a machine that shared a network with or, in some cases,
was just in close physical proximity to another machine that wasn't
connected to the internet.

Generally speaking, I think  surveillance is wretched stuff. But there is a
point at which the hand wringing becomes a bit much. I agree with Jon in
that, while things are at a critical point, the technologies of security
and anonymity will inevitable improve. In fact, the cruddy state of things
has been adding momentum to that progress. And I don't lose any sleep over
using Google Analytics to do some relatively innocuous web tracking. In
fact, I probably would lose sleep if I wasn't trying to track usage.

Best regards,
*Jason Bengtson, MLIS, MA*

Head of Library Computing and Information Systems
Assistant Professor, Graduate College
Department of Health Sciences Library and Information Management
University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center
405-271-2285, opt. 5
405-271-3297 (fax)
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On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Riley Childs <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> First, I have to get it out of the way: One of the biggest things to
> remember, the most secure system is the one that is not on and connected...
>
>
> Second (read the entire statement): This tracking data serves as a barter
> system for services, but I think the big issue is that there is no "price
> tag" on the website, it is like walking into a grocery store and seeing
> "SALE!" but with no price tag, then getting to the register paying and THEN
> looking at your receipt and realizing that book cost your soul.
> --
> Riley Childs
> Senior
> IT Admin
> Charlotte United Christian Academy
> office: +1 (704) 537-0331 x101
> mobile: +1 (704) 497-2086
> web: rileychilds.net
> twitter: @RowdyChildren
> Checkout our new Online Library Catalog: catalog.cucawarriors.com
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Jon
> Goodell <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 3:25 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library Privacy, RIP (Was: Canvas Fingerprinting
> by AddThis)
>
> I don't believe the horse has left the barn forever. As Bruce Schneier
> says, security is a process, not a product. And as we learn more about this
> space we can advocate in our own institutions for greater awareness and
> perhaps adjustments to the technologies we use to evaluate online activity.
> AddThis and ShareThis probably have limited value for the data they
> compromise. Google Analytics is probably a much better trade. EZproxy
> too...
>
> Jon
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Eric Hellman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 14, 2014, at 4:32 PM, William Denton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > At the university where I work Google Analytics is the standard, and we
> > use it on the library's web site.  There's probably no way around
> > that---but we can tell people how to block the tracking, which will help
> > them locally (ironically) and everwhere else.  (I use Piwik at home, and
> > like it, but moving to that here would be a long-term project, only
> partly
> > for technical reasons.)
> >
> > I think a reasonable place to draw a line in the sand is "use for
> > advertising". If you look at the Google Analytics site, it doesn't appear
> > that they can use Analytics tracking for advertising, because they don't
> > make the carve-outs for children that I believe would be required if they
> > did. So if you trust google, and assume they know everything anyway, you
> > can let them track users.
> >
> > AddThis and ShareThis, on the other hand have TOS that let them use
> > tracking for advertising, and that's what their business is. So,
> > hypothetically, a teen could look at library catalog records for books
> > about childbirth, and as a result, later be shown ads for pregnancy
> tests,
> > and that would be something the library has permitted.
> >
> > A criminal prosecutor could subpoena either Google or AddThis/ShareThis
> to
> > obtain tracking data for anyone in your library who had read books about
> > Nazism or the Black Panthers or witchcraft,  completely without involving
> > the library. Do you think Google would easily comply with that sort of
> > request? would AddThis? Would EBSCO?
> >
> > At Unglue.it, we use Google Analytics, but we have avoided Things like
> > Facebook Like, and the third party shares because we didn't like the
> > tradeoff.
> >
> > But maybe the horse has left the barn forever.
> >
> > Eric
> >
>

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