Wordpress v. Drupal is the third rail.

And I agree with Cary, either is a win for open source ;)

-Charlie

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Alex Armstrong <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Cary, I sense I have upset you. I don't think I bashed or promoted
> anything, but I could mistaken. In any case, I certainly I did not mean to
> upset you and I'm really sorry about that.
>
> Let me go back to the beginning: I am fact-gathering CMSs and plugins for
> building a conference and community site (two different projects, happening
> in that order) for a consortium.
>
> Any and all suggestions are very welcome.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> On 10/16/2014 10:17 PM, Cary Gordon wrote:
>
>> It appears that you are bashing Drupal because of your experience with an
>> old version, and that you want to promote CUNY's WordPress Commons in a
>> Box. You are drawing a conclusion — perhaps that Wordpress is "better" —
>> although I am not sure how you get there.
>>
>> I make a fair chunk of my living working on Drupal projects in the
>> library/academic/non-profit space, and I am deeply involved with the
>> Drupal
>> project, but I do not feel that WordPress is "the competition". If I bid
>> Drupal for a CMS and lose to Wordpress or another FOSS CMS, I see that as
>> a
>> win. As a true believer in free and open-source software, I see the
>> competition as the expensive closed source, lock-in systems.
>>
>> I prefer Drupal to WordPress, because my company builds complex systems
>> that often integrate with external services, and Drupal provides a much
>> more robust set of tools for to build on. If someone else has already
>> built
>> a great system that suits your purpose in WordPress, then the toolset is
>> not an issue. You can certainly build great tools in WordPress.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Alex Armstrong <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks Mark. Both of these look promising.
>>>
>>> Cary, I wasn't trying to tar COD. (That's a nice verb right there :)
>>> My comment about the table of unfair feature comparison was about this
>>> design pattern in general. I probably should have kept my opinions to
>>> myself in this context.
>>>
>>> I am little biased against Drupal, which has to do with my own
>>> background: I've never used anything later than Drupal 6!
>>>
>>> We're also looking into platforms for building academic communities or
>>> communities in higher ed contexts. The bigwig in this area is CUNY's
>>> Commons in a Box, which is WordPress-powered.
>>>
>>> I'm not aware of something as full-featured and actively-maintained,
>>> whether open source or not -- but please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>> Hence my gentle instistence on WordPress.
>>>
>>> (I was planning to ask about the academic communities as a seperate
>>> question, which I may do anyway, depending on who bites in this thread
>>> and as I wrap up my own research.)
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Cary Gordon <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is also Able Organizer, a new CRM distribution for Drupal that has
>>>>
>>> events in its protfolio. I have not had much opportunity to work with it,
>>> yet. https://www.drupal.org/project/ableorganizer
>>>
>>>> Drupal COD is well established. I wouldn't tar COD for some external BS.
>>>>
>>> That makes no sense. We use it for out local Drupal events.
>>>
>>>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Alex Armstrong <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for pitching in. COD looks good.
>>>>>
>>>>> On their site (http://usecod.com) I found the obligatory table of
>>>>>
>>>> unfair feature comparisons. One of these is to an out-of-date WordPress
>>> plugin.
>>>
>>>> Any WP suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> ('m not partial, but as of earlier today it looks like I might be using
>>>>>
>>>> it for other, but affiliated reasons.)
>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/15/2014 05:34 PM, Clapp, Sharon B. (Library) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone has mentioned Drupal's Conference Organizing Distribution,
>>>>>>
>>>>> right?https://www.drupal.org/project/cod
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>>>>>>
>>>>> Of Alex Armstrong
>>>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 5:36 AM
>>>>>> To:[log in to unmask]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference site backend
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me try and ask this again, with less ambiguity:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What built-in CMS functionality or plugin have you used to assist you
>>>>>>
>>>>> in managing a conference schedule and registration?
>>>
>>>> Among other things, I'm in the market for a new CMS. So rather than
>>>>>>
>>>>> the specialized tool that Francis suggested, I'm looking for a
>>> multi-purpose platform or a platform I can wrangle to serve multiple
>>> purposes.
>>>
>>>> P.S. Confusingly, I switched my CODE4LIB subscription to a different
>>>>>>
>>>>> email.
>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On October 10, 2014 4:23:57 PM EEST, Francis Kayiwa<[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/10/2014 09:13 AM, Alex Armstrong wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Hi list,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Not exactly related to libraries, but:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   I'm putting together a site for the annual conference of a library
>>>>>>>> consortium. Last year we had paired a static site with an event
>>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>>   (Sched) to manage the schedule and provide workshop sign ups. This
>>>>>>>> time  we'd like to move everything under one umbrella.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Any recommendations for a conference backend?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   I'm looking for an open source solution I can deploy on a shared
>>>>>>>> hosting  plan. I'm not picky about the CMS. The current iteration is
>>>>>>>> put together  locally using a static site generator, so I can switch
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to whatever.
>>>
>>>> Give Open Conference a looksie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://pkp.sfu.ca/ocs/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> ./fxk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
> --
> Alex
>