The has been little interest in formalizing c4l, and many folks believe
that our strength is in our ad hoc-ness.

I generally resist getting involved in discussions of standards, because
while I am a strong advocate for standards, I have been a member of NISO,
invested a lot of time in a couple standards, and I have seen how the
sausage is made, or more aptly, fails to get made. NISO (and LITA, ASIS&T,
etc.) are quite well represented on this list, and I don't believe that a
formalized c4l would give us any more say in standards that we have already.

As to the original reference, suffice it to say that I believe BISG — the
US counterpart to BIC — sees libraries as competition and will not do
anything to help them.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Cornel Darden Jr. <[log in to unmask]
> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I think code4lib is awesome and I've seen threads on this list before that
> discussed whether code4lib should become a more traditional organization. I
> think code4 lib is fine as it is, but I think we definitely need a
> professional organization for librarians that code. These talks of
> standards and guidelines may reflect such a need. I think LITA is awesome
> as well! But is there not a need for something else?
>
> As far as print books go, they are much too slow and don't functionally
> meet modern information needs, at least not in their current form (internet
> of things?) Maybe a little AR would help. The DRM, publishing, software,
> and standards issues are inhibitors, but I think the ship has sailed on the
> millions of non connected print books in academic library shelves.  I
> wouldn't get rid of them. But their days are numbered. I think print books
> are a niche and if we don't provide then we would lose an important part of
> culture. But I do wonder, how many open stacks have clay tablets and
> scrolls? Personally, I wish they did. But I wouldnt recommend that they be
> used to do serious work.
>
> Cornel Darden Jr.
> MSLIS
> Library Department Chair
> South Suburban College
> 7087052945
>
> "Our Mission is to Serve our Students and the Community through lifelong
> learning."
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 7, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Salazar, Christina <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I love C4L too, but
> >
> > Can/does C4L have players on NISO for example - what is C4L involvement
> in standards? Should/could C4L be involved in standards? (And probably
> tangentially, is C4L a professional organization?)
> >
> > Wow, this is turning into another iteration of the "library community
> web standards" thread from last week, isn't it?
> >
> > But man, I think we're losing so many opportunities to have a voice in
> the development of technologies that could be useful to us and our users.
> >
> > Christina
> > PS, just to throw this back in response: I disagree that "current print
> books in academic libraries aren't conducive to student learning" - they're
> just more one tool in the research tool kit, aren't they and would they get
> used more often if librarians made them easier to use?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Cary Gordon
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 8:53 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Forwarding blog post: Apple, Android and NFC –
> how should libraries prepare? (RFID stuffs)
> >
> > This is as good as it gets, which is pretty good in my opinion.
> >
> > Cary Gordon, MLS
> >
> > On Monday, October 6, 2014, Cornel Darden Jr. <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Is there a professional organization for librarians who code?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cary Gordon
> > The Cherry Hill Company
> > http://chillco.com
>



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The Cherry Hill Company
http://chillco.com