I never said I "didn't believe them" - I asked a question. I don't have any experience with this and was asking for more information. No need to go on the defensive.
Also, Tara has agreed to take over that responsibility, so no is forcing Cary/Riley to do anything they're uncomfortable with.
Sarah
> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:43:45 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> In order to keep some presenters from being streamed and others not would require the presentation line up (including whether ALL of the presenters who are included on an individual presentation) to be made available to the filming crew in advance, for that line up not to change (for example, to run behind schedule), it would require quite a bit of babysitting of the "piece of paper" to make sure it was to hand at the time it's needed... I'm sure there's more that I don't know.
>
> Because the broadcast is live, it's really NOT as simple as sticking up a piece of paper when someone comes on who doesn't want to be filmed because ONCE you've inadvertently filmed someone the cat is out of the bag - their image is out there for the world to see - it requires a bit of planning and thought (as I imagine) before the person is standing there getting filmed.
>
> Cary and Riley (others) film C4L for fun and for free and may (????) want to actually do stuff other than juggling pieces of paper (like take a restroom break, perhaps?).
>
> I believe Cary's and Riley's assessment that this is burdensome cos I can just imagine how this would be if *I* had to do it. Both have way more experience with this than me (er... I have none), but still, as I understand it, this is more than they feel comfortable taking on.
>
> (Haven't you watched them - they actually DO bring some production values to this, too.)
>
> Christina Salazar
> Systems Librarian
> John Spoor Broome Library
> California State University, Channel Islands
> 805/437-3198
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah Shealy
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 12:07 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy
>
> What more would be required than just putting a sheet of paper in front of the lens while filming? Honestly curious.
> Sarah
>
> > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:00:05 -0800
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Conference photography policy
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > I think that requiring explicit permission from presenters is overly burdensome for the crew that is struggling to get the recordings up. I think that speakers and presenters should be informed that all presentations may be recorded and made available to the public unless they inform the conference committee that they do not want to be recorded before their presentation begins.
> >
> > If they object, the video crew will refrain from capturing their presentation.
> >
> > If we do screen capture again, it is possible that presenter could have the option of allowing us to record their voice and screen.
> >
> > Cary
> >
> > > On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Andreas Orphanides <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > We would definitely want to both give notice to the presenters that
> > > the plan is to record and to get consent (or dissent) ahead of time,
> > > so that we can plan AV appropriately if someone does not want to be
> > > broadcast. It would be awful to broadcast someone who didn't consent
> > > to it; nor would we want to have to disrupt things in progress to adjust for an "unexpected"
> > > dissent that should/could have been expected.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Tara Robertson
> > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I love this conversation.
> > >>
> > >> WRT presenters, I think it's good to be explicit that the plan is
> > >> to stream and record. It would be good practice to have presenters
> > >> sign a consent form agreeing to this.
> > >>
> > >> Tara
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 26/01/2015 10:42 AM, Andreas Orphanides wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Sounds like we've got an established practice in place, then. Awesome.
> > >>>
> > >>> Wouldn't hurt for us to clarify any policy we decide on to state
> > >>> that presenters are welcome to not consent to webcast.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:41 PM, William Denton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On 26 January 2015, Andreas Orphanides wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Not to complicate things: shall (or *how shall*) we accommodate
> > >>>> requests
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> from presenters who might have a "no photo" preference vis-a-vis
> > >>>>> conference webcast?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> A few years ago a speaker didn't want to be filmed, and someone
> > >>>>> turned
> > >>>> off
> > >>>> the camera and put a paper bag over it for the duration.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Bill
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> William Denton ¡ê Toronto, Canada ¡ê https://www.miskatonic.org/
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> Tara Robertson
> > >>
> > >> Accessibility Librarian, CAPER-BC <http://caperbc.ca/> T
> > >> 604.323.5254 F 604.323.5954 [log in to unmask]
> > >> <mailto:Tara%20Robertson%20% [log in to unmask]>
> > >>
> > >> Langara. <http://www.langara.bc.ca>
> > >>
> > >> 100 West 49th Avenue, Vancouver, BC, V5Y 2Z6
> > >>
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